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Anyone from Vietnam or Japan or somewhere where cow's milk/dairy doesn't feature?

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Hohumchops · 02/08/2010 14:20

Would love to have a quick chat about what children are fed as have a child with a milk allergy. Interested to know how important it really is for little ones to have cow's milk, etc.

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thisisyesterday · 02/08/2010 20:56

i am not from vietnam/japan but i do have a child who can't have dairy
there are loads of vegan families out there who are perfectly healthy without milk too remember

ds2 has oat milk, which has the same amount of calcium in it as semi skimmed milk

RuthChan · 02/08/2010 20:58

I am not Japanese, but I lived there for 9 years, my husband is Japanese and my DD was born there.

As you rightly say, there is (traditionally) no dairy in the Japanese diet.
They got their calcium intake mainly from eating seaweed and small fish which were eaten including their bones/shells etc.
This didn't give a great deal of calcium overall and is one of the main reasons for the Japanese people being so small on average.
In recent years milk, yogurt and cheese consumption has increased dramatically. It is no coincidence that the height of the Japanese people has also grown just as dramatically.
In the UK, I am average to small. (5 foot 4)
Compared to DH's grandparents' generation, I am huge and tower over both men and women. A very large percentage of women in that generation are bent over with very severe osteoporosis.
In comparison to DH's parents' generation, I am large. I am taller than both his parents. His mother is about 5 foot and his father is about my height.
In comparison to our generation, I am taller than average. DH is 6 foot and is the tallest of all his friends. (He drank a lot of milk as a child) I am taller than most, but not all of my female friends.
In comparison to current high school students I am small. They are dramatically taller and much closer to modern western sizes.

This is not all due solely to dairy intake, but it can't be ignored. The diet has changed in many ways in recent years, but with regards to bone strength and growth, it must be a major factor.

In Japan, children who are allergic to dairy are given soya products, as is common here. Many of them have added calcium, so it doesn't mean that children have to miss out too much.

SomeGuy · 05/08/2010 21:19

where my wife comes from they don't get dairy, but they are also about 6-10 inches shorter as a direct result. No problem there, because everyone is short, more so if you're living here.

Our son is about average and our daughter is well above.

friend whose son has dairy allergy is being given extended bf to compensate.

Although in Asia longer bf is standard, so I guess the shorter height might also be due to less meat/protein otherwise.

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