Leaving the UK for somewhere better

[QuickDraining]

Given that the USA is going to hell in a hand cart. And as the UK usually follows, it makes one think if you could prepare for a dreadful future by escaping THE island.

Where would be a good safe decent country to live, where the people are decent, it's egalitarian, and you can be proud of your elected officials?

Utopia?

But surely it depends on what qualifications you have that make you attractive? Most countries are clamping down on immigrants.

Let's pretend I'm over qualified, employers would be fighting for me, and I have money...

Which Countries are desirable and why?

I don’t know, but the wine is decent & cheaper in France

surely good wine can make life better when you can afford it

Canada? Though I hear they have a housing crisis, collapsing medical care and of course they have just veered right.
Scandinavia? Though I expect you would need to learn a language.
The Netherlands? But they have also veered right.
Portugal?

Sadly all the qualifications don't count now in a lot of Europe.
Another bonus of Brexit 🙄

Btw why is this in Flouncer's Corner?

@Lentilweaver we got by fine in Denmark in English and Sweden very similar too - you do pick up some of the lingo though as you go along

I loved Sweden and Denmark

I looked for general, or miscellaneous, and that seemed the most appropriate! I think since the age of about 20 I was like, stamps feet, that's enough - I'm out of here!

Surely my C in AS integrated humanities counts?

The grass isn't always greener. Have relatives in one of the countries often cited as being excellent to live in and it seems many of the supposed amazing things are over stated, simply untrue and nothing can compensate for the dark winters and don't underestimate the issues this causes

Flouncer's Corner is for people who want to leave MN.😂
You might get more sensible replies elsewhere.

One of my DC was very keen to emigrate... before meeting a whole load of international students, who all had major valid gripes about their home countries.

Personally think everywhere is a bit fucked, but I love the food, wine, culture and history of Italy and making my way through Duolingo so I’d probably live there, if they’d have me. Tbh, if it’s not ‘my’ country, I would happily watch on the political antics with detached amusement.

I love the culture, history, food and scenery of Greece. But there are no jobs there as their economy is doing badly.
Maybe in retirement.

Portugal would be a solid choice.

Can you be a nomad and live in different places while you decide which you like the most?
if remote working this is a brilliant way to travel and work

You can get MN abroad?

Don't go!!!

(Reaches out hand)

I’m sure it would 😂

Having lived outside the UK for several decades, I would say that one of the reasons that the grass appears greener is that even if you acquire really good local language skills, you will probably never be involved in the minutiae of the politics of your adopted country, and the associated media coverage. This is probably a good thing, because most of that media coverage is speculation, with a tendency to talk about the worst-case scenarios.

There is also a rose-tinted spectacles effect that means you often play down things that are worse about your new country and play up the things that are better. For working-age people, living in Spain or France or Australia still means getting up in the morning and going to a workplace full of random people, some of whom are not very nice, and then coming home via a supermarket where they have run out of the bread you like.

Remember also that the political front parties of the thuggish right regularly score around 20% in many liberal democracies. They won't bother you directly as long as you're white, but the same bitterness towards foreigners is pretty standard everywhere. Although these parties are unlikely to score 50%, there is a non-zero chance that they may take power in France soon, since France has a constituency-based system and 40% is enough to win (and the centre and left are utterly split).