I was right the first time

[fanjoforthemammaries7850]

Yet another thread about not sitting your kids beside the children with SN in school.

I left after the panto thread and was much happier in general but missed a few people so came back.

Wrong decision.

Don't flame me..this is not attention seeking or wanting to be persuaded to stay. I won't. mN is not for me.

Just wanted to say bye to the nice folks, who will know who they are.

And explain why I'm off, in case anyone wonders later.

Adieu

[HecateWhoopass]

All that poster has shown is that they have no understanding whatsoever of equal opportunities and they think it is about giving people the same stuff/input.

It's not. It's about equality of outcome.

It is staggering the number of people who are unable to understand it. It's not a difficult concept

I saw a brilliant cartoon. I wish I could find it. It showed 3 people looking over a fence. The fence was high and they were each given a box of exactly the same dimensions.

But they were massively different in height. Giving them all the same sized box meant one of them was able to lean on the fence and see comfortably. One of them could see over by standing on their tiptoes and the third was on the box but couldn't see over the fence. They were just staring at the wood.

Now, these 'treat them all the same' idiots would be the ones saying 'they were given the exact same box as everyone else, it was equal, what more do you want?'

They'll never get it no matter how many times you explain or how many ways you explain. To them, equal means putting in the exact same.

It doesn't. Not when you are talking about equality of outcome.

[BrokenBritain]

I know you don't know me but I'll miss you! Well that might sound a bit intense, but I will miss your posts. You are articulate and you make very good points. I really hope you change your mind but if not I wish you lots of happiness.

[lemonmuffin]

I don't get it, Im sorry.

In your second post on this thread, I would feel the same as that poster if that was my child.

Is that really so terrible?

[akaemmafrost]

[fanjoforthemammaries7850]

no, it's fine and dandy (couldn't resist a last arsey post)

[Wewereherefirst]

Yes Lemon, it really is.

[fanjoforthemammaries7850]

See ..there are posters here who post really insensitive posts about SN.

It's just their lack of intelligence.

But I'd rather pull my own toenails out with pliers than read any more of their shite.

[fanjoforthemammaries7850]

is that really so terrible?

[Wewereherefirst]

You should pull their tonails out instead. Much more cathartic

[LadyIsabellaWrotham]

Oh fanjo, goodbye if it is goodbye, or preferably au revoir. Either way I wish you well .

[TantrumsAndBalloons]

lemon are you taking the piss?

You must be, surely. Because you have just read through an entire thread, by a poster who is very upset at the insensitive comments directed at SN children. You have read how upsetting it is for a lot of people. People who battle every single day against attitudes like fanjo illustrated and worse.

And then you post that you agree with that comment?

I have had my eyes opened over the past few days.
I was not aware that there were that many people who lack empathy, consideration, decency. And that these people feel the need to direct insensitive, and frankly nasty comments towards SN children and their parents.

I find it upsetting to be honest and my DCs, AFAIK are NT.
I can only imagine the pain this causes to the parents of SN children.

[Whyriskit]

Fanjo, you don't know me, but MN will be a poorer place without you. Those of us who just lurk and think FFS when ignorant disabilist tripe is spouted do need to take a stand or the tossers will think they're right.

[lemonmuffin]

I don't want to upset anyone and I appreciate that flouncers corner is probably not the best place to discuss this type of subject.

I just said that if my child (year 3, age 8) came home and described the scenario that Fanjo mentioned then I would be concerned. And would probably speak to the teacher.

Beatrix - yes I agree, how do you propose that would happen?

[SauvignonBlanche]

Sorry to hear you're going Fanjo.
That vile post you quoted from the 'being late' thread has been deleted, I reported it. I didn't see the other thread you mentioned.
Don't let the bastards get you down!

[fanjoforthemammaries7850]

I assume it was deleted as disablist.

Yet lemon is on here defending it.

[fanjoforthemammaries7850]

Oh no..that was the other post. Both were disablist though.

[lemonmuffin]

I'm not defending it

[fanjoforthemammaries7850]

My DD is gentle. She is at special school. She has to sit beside children who hit. I don't demand she is moved and she has never been hit.

But not resuming this discussion. Going out for dinner with DH

[PheasantPlucker]

Fanjo I don't post much, but just wanted to say I'll miss your posts.

And I totally agree, there is some hideous anti-SN shit on here.

[fanjoforthemammaries7850]

Have to say..the reason why I am nit totally gone is the good guys are doing a totally sterling job on the late child thread. Very heartening. And you lot of course.

And this elastic on my leg