Hamnit Picking. Plants Out of Time & Place!

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I've just seen Hamnet, which I really enjoyed.
But - it's bugging me that there was a close up of Echinacea in Agnes's garden.
A quick Google tells me that this wasn't in the UK until the 1700's so well after the period in which the film is set.
I'm finding it doubly annoying as the character is portrayed as being somewhat of a plantswoman and again Google mentions that the researchers say they paid attention to what plants would have been around at the time.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Also I'd love to hear any out of place/time objects, horticultural or otherwise, you have spotted.

Can someone remind me how they were pronouncing Agnes in the film. I was so distracted for a lot of it wondering what her name was supposed to be but can’t remember now. Also noticed the front crawl!

Ann-yuhs

the audiobook had the same pronunciation.

www.waterstones.com/blog/maggie-ofarrell-on-the-significance-of-names-in-hamnet

Ahh that was it thank you!!
I kept thinking is it Anya? What are they calling her???

It’s Agnes, with a softer pronunciation of the g sound. I learned from the book that Anne Hathaway’s father referred to her as Agnes in his will.

It stood out for me powerfully in the film and audiobook that Shakespeare himself is never named. Such an interesting aspect.

Yes, thank you for the article it was very interesting. I shall add Hamnet to my (embarrassingly long) to read list!

The swimming really annoyed me! Loved the film but don’t have Shakespeare pegged as a county level swimmer somehow.

I don't think it was ever meant to be Shakespeare and spouse. AH is more significant.

Thanks for sharing that review @AelitaQueenofMars very interesting.

@ZookeeperSE I'm
laughing! Do you know what episode of GOT the Starbucks cup was in- I'm going to check it out!

I also noticed an ‘OK’ which was said by Agnes, and a lot of incongruous language/ sentiments.

also noticed the lack of attention aeons the umbilical cord/ placenta delivery.

nice to look at but lots of nonsense really!

Haven't seen the film and probably won't but the comments about the swimming have caught my attention - what sort of swimming stroke/style would they have done then?

I have a feeling I read about swimming strokes in Roger Deakin’s Waterlog, but there are a few articles about historic swimming strokes, eg https://slate.com/human-interest/2022/07/history-of-the-crawl-stroke-karen-eva-carr-shifting-currents.html

Basically, all sorts of mad strokes!

I was staring at Shakespeares trousers with a zip in, thought they looked like a pair of jeans? The OK really annoyed me as well!

I thought that too, but it didn't spoil a completely wonderful film. Loved every minute of it - v emotional.

Why do you dislike Paul Mescal so much @AelitaQueenofMars ?