Frankenstein

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I have just seen this and thought that it wasn’t as gothic as I had hoped and found some of the acting a little bit OTT and pantomime. I think some of the music didn’t fit. The costumers were great though.Overall it was enjoyable but nothing special.

I thought the same when I saw it in the cinema back in the day. Poor execution of a brilliant story. Think this was when Branagh started his affair with HBC too. And wasn't true to the book, but I even bore myself when I get cross about this.

I suspect OP is talking about 2025 Frankenstein rather than 1994
www.imdb.com/title/tt1312221/

Oh sorry, I didn't know there was a new one! Thank you.

And it ended with a quote from Byron. Presumably because there weren't any memorable words written by Shelley.... Ffs.

I liked Pans Labyrinth but I find Del Toro so overrated.

I thought it was pretty good for a Netflix film.

I mean, wasn't Byron the one who first proposed the storytelling competition that led to her writing Frankenstein? I thought it quite fitting; loved the use of Ozymandias too.

Its a beautifully done film in my opinion and I liked the changes to the story, despite being a huge fan of the original novel (which is quoted quite extensively throughout the film unless my ears deceived me!)

I really didn’t like the changes - I thought it really flattened it. In the book, they are both complex and dark. The creator is sympathetic but also definitely a monster. Frankenstein makes terrible, selfish choices but is also really human. In this film, it was much more monster=good, human=bad. I can’t believe they had the brother literally say that he was the monster!

Also lots of stylistic choices that look good but made no sense. What was going on with that weird tower with the death shoot in it? Why was he sawing up perfectly functional legs into little bits to stick then all back together with other bits - just take the whole leg! Why were they at a restaurant that was also a ball?

Annoying!

I do also agree about the Byron quote - yes he came up with the idea of writing a scary story, but she created Frankenstein. Give her a voice!

Sorry - the creature, not the creator!

We enjoyed it.

It was nice to look at & I thought Jacob E was good but nothing particularly remarkable

The costumes were amazing, Elizabeth didn’t really do dressing down.

I thought it was well made but it was too long imo.

I quite enjoyed it but I love all things Del Toro and Oscar Isacks (sp?)
No idea what Mia Goth was doing though apart from wearing lovely clothes

She wrote it. And it would be nice if men's voices weren't used as framing devices to seemingly legitimise female creativity.

I watched on Netflix at the weekend and absolutely loved it. One of those rare films that sticks in your mind afterwards. Very moving in parts and darkly comic in others. Casting, wardrobe, set production and music were perfect imho. I really like del Toros films (most of them-still not sure about the Shape of Water though). He’s an original and innovative. Refreshing in an era of mass produced superhero films ( love Marvel tho!)

I didn't deny that she wrote it? And it wasn't a framing device: it was a single quote at the end of the film. The point I was trying to make is that the story behind the writing of Frankenstein is quite famous in itself, and it was nice that the film had a couple of little nods to that.

I absolutely love the book and so was very disappointed about how different the film was. I think after I accepted it was just a completely different thing I liked some elements. The costumes, the sets, and the kindness of Elizabeth to the monster. It was interesting anyway if not amazing.

The book is one of my favourite of all time, so I was interested in seeing this. It wasn’t gothic enough for me personally, plus the humanisation of the creature was at odds with the book as it’s more both are complex and deranged in their own ways. For what it was I enjoyed it, but had to divorce the book from the film in order to enjoy it.

We watched this last night. Haven’t read the book (always meant to!) so can’t compare, but other renditions led me to believe things were changed a bit from the original story. Didn’t Elizabeth marry Victor, not his brother?

Anyway, DH and I enjoyed it. It was entertaining, visually stunning, and a good monster/horror romp. And Oscar Isaac looked like he was really enjoying himself!

Like PPs, found Elizabeth to be a bit of a spare part.

I haven't seen the production yet, but, for me, the humanisation of the creature is pretty much the whole point of the book.

I'm cross that the director seems to have strayed so far from the original. I'd like to watch it, but really wish it was more true to Shelley's work. The presentation of the creature looks remarkable though, and the costumes look amazing too.

And tbf, Shelley makes Victor say several times that he is the monster 9eg when Henry is killed), although she also shows he doesn't really believe this and never fully takes responsibility.

We liked it. A bit long, but thought it was good.

I haven’t seen it but that’s how I felt about the book. I know that probably makes me a philistine but I didn’t like it at all. The central idea is obviously a great and enduring one. But I found the book boring and hammy. You could tell it was written by a teenager.

It's certainly flawed, but I don't think it feels adolescent, except for some of Victor's nonsense when he challenges the creature - his language is very hammy then, but I like to think it's deliberate so he sounds like a bit of a pillock.

The section when he starts university, before the creature's 'birth' is dull as, and so is the section where he's pissing around all over the UK with Henry, to avoid creating the female, but much of it is really brilliant writing imo - the creature's birth, the death of Elizabeth, the creature recounting setting fire to the DeLacey cottage - wonderful stuff.

Ok yes I did like the bit from the monster’s perspective when he was observing the cottage. You’re right it’s not all bad. But there are some real lulls.