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Ijust stopped watching a film after 10 mins because of child sex abuse scenes

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eenybeeny · 04/05/2008 20:59

DH and I sat down to watch the Buterfly Effect. 10 mins into it a man was about to molest little children and I felt sick and turned it off. Now I am watching the Island. Anyone seen either? Anyone else cant stomach films like that?

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beaniesteve · 07/05/2008 16:59

It is. I have noticed that a 'certain type' of people tend to read them.

eenybeeny · 07/05/2008 17:05

I havent heard of those books and I dont think I want to. I once started vomiting blood at the beginning of Down and Out in Paris and London at a horrible rape scene. I just cant cope with it. And yes I too was abused as a child. So sad that so many of us were.

I agree about the little babies in tv shows etc who are crying because the atmosphere is stressful - I would NEVER ever ever let my children suffer ANYTHING for a pay cheque no matter how big or how cool it made someone else feel. I think its awful. I just dont think babies and children should be exposed to violence and sex in the name of entertainment. People are taking children and abusing them every day - why would you want yours acting it out for the benefit of someone else?

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beaniesteve · 07/05/2008 17:08

People are not taking children and abusing them every day! People get abused every day but if by taking you mean being abducted then actually this happens very rarely.

southeastastra · 07/05/2008 17:10

'I have noticed that a 'certain type' of people tend to read them'

yes my mil!

she turned up the volume for the news from austria this week, so my ds(6) could hear it too.

lisad123 · 07/05/2008 17:13

I see/hear enough of it at work dont need it at home too.
Love dramas like waking the dead, silent witness ect, Dh thinks im sick

chuggabopps · 07/05/2008 17:13

eeny- vomiting blood? i want to give you sympathy but that does come across in print as an exageration. Please don't think i am attacking you with this statement- this exactly backs up my point that a film that would have shown me your perspective effectively. whereas by just seeing your post alone it looks more like hysteria.
yes- i would let my children be involved in the knowledge that someone else might be helped by bringing the topic out into the open. more harm is surely done by ignoring such an emotive topic than by educating people?

pagwatch · 07/05/2008 17:16

I worked on a tv drama once and was involved in a sceen that required toddlers to be present.
The sceen involved a child behaving very oddly and the scene became aggressive but without being violent.

All the mums ( they were all mums) sat outside star spotting and chatting as their three and four year olds were taken inside.
I went in to do my bit. When I came out I was that a couple of mums asked me who I was and what I was doing and what were the stars like. Only when all other questions had dried up did any of them ask what was happening in the sceen.
I remain about it and I think it has made sceens with children in distress all the harder for me to watch.

beaniesteve · 07/05/2008 17:17

When I say certain type of person I mean those women who go on about how bad the workld is, who use the words 'poor tot' when they see something bad on the news about kids, Who hark on and on abdout declining morals, drink, drugs, the world, foreigners etc.

Then they sit their being titilated by these horrible stories which possibly are partly made up and certainly exageratted to get more readers.

Horrid Horrid books, bought by people who only ever buy books in Supermarkets.

beaniesteve · 07/05/2008 17:17

there - sorry

chuggabopps · 07/05/2008 17:20

beniesteve- although it is wrong to exagerate for the type of books you describe (and i have heard of several discredited as fakes or exagerations that i heartily disapprove of) would you deny a victim the right to tell their story?

GetOrfMoiLand · 07/05/2008 17:21

lol

My mum reads these awful and she has to put up with me ranting whenever I see them.

'But they're true' she says, with a scandalised look on her face.

WigWamBam · 07/05/2008 17:21

You are making it sound as if there are only two alternatives though, chugga - watch graphic films about such issues, or ignore them completely.

Personally I prefer to take the middle ground - not ignoring it, not hiding my head in the sand about it, but not chosing to watch graphic films - whether it be for entertainment or education. There are other ways of addressing these issues which don't involve watching re-enactments of children being abused.

And as for those "tragic life stories", or whatever they are classified as in WHSmith these days, I wouldn't touch those with a barge pole either.

eenybeeny · 07/05/2008 17:24

chugga - well that was rather bitchy wasnt it? hysteria? exageration? you dont know me at all to make claims like that. I was being honest and tbh you have hurt my feelings. Whether or not you want to believe it it did happen. I dont feel the need to explain my health problems to you but nevertheless I do have some and that affected things. But the vomiting was a reaction of a cruel rape scene and it brought back memories of things that had happened to me. Maybe you need to be a bit more compassionate when people try to open up.

I do not think children in THIS country are being abducted every day I am not overly paranoid - children get sexually abused every day by friends, relatives etc and in other countries children DO get abducted all the time and put into the sex trade.

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eenybeeny · 07/05/2008 17:26

And by the way I am NEVER for ignoring abuse of any kind. Publicising it has its place. But would I let my children be the showcase to educate 10% of people while the other 90% just watch a film with a hot guy in it? No. There are other ways of doing things. Like books. Actually putting things in print to use your own words.

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chuggabopps · 07/05/2008 17:27

not at all- what is important is the quality of the story to be told, or if given as truth then sticking to the truth. a poor story teller will pander to the lowest common denominator, and have unbelievable characters, a good one will not- its all in how its done. for all that LOTR has an unrealistic plot- it has characters that engage you in a realistic way- its all in the skill of the storyteller.

beaniesteve · 07/05/2008 17:28

"beniesteve- although it is wrong to exagerate for the type of books you describe (and i have heard of several discredited as fakes or exagerations that i heartily disapprove of) would you deny a victim the right to tell their story? "

I worked in Bookselling for 7 years. There are many many wonderfully written books which detail many kinds of disadvantaged childhoods. 'Once in a house on fire' is one 'Liars club' is another.

Sadly, since David Peltzer became famous for his book (And then the sequels) publishers have been seeking out more and more salicious stories. While I don't deny people have every right to share their stories, I think the way they are sharing their stories is wrong. These books are not just badly written they are often exagerated, or at least the most titilating ones are. The stories are fuelled by a big fat cheque from the publishers.

I think there are much more appropriate places for victims to tell their stories, in counselling for example.

What I find most appalling is the public interest in these books. People buy these books as some kind of enjoyment, they are clamouring for them, they are expecting each new victim to release a book. People right now are probably waiting with baited breath to hear the story of the woman found in the cellar. Hopefully she will be protected from this public interest and frm the publlishers.

nailpolish · 07/05/2008 18:27

there is a difference between turning off a horrible scene of a film that you just dont want to watch and "pretending such things don't exist"

as you put it

stop exaggerating

DarrellRivers · 07/05/2008 18:39

There is a middle ground.
I am well aware of the violence and war etc that goes on.
I listen to the news , read the papers etc.
What I cannot stand are these things portrayed as 'entertainment' and I hate the gratuitous violence that seems normal these days as part of a film.

eenybeeny · 07/05/2008 18:54

thank you nailpolish and Darrell and others for your support. I thought it was v. unreasonable for anyone to imply I was pretending such things didnt exist. I guess I forgot to mention that I used to volunteer for a rape crisis charity. See I didnt feel I had to explain my every move. I choose not to watch little children being abused. I find it too upsetting. That is all I was saying.

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eenybeeny · 07/05/2008 19:41

I am making what I hope to be a final statement.

I deeply regret opening up in this thread the way I did. I forgot myself for a moment and forgot how insensitive some people can be and I really shouldnt have been honest unless I was prepared to be hurt as well which clearly I am not.

I have reported a post to MNHQ as being overly harsh on a very sensitive subject.

I hope anyone who reads this thread will understand I am someone who is a normal mother who was abused as a child. For those of you who know me in RL as some of you do please do not think anything bad about me like I am hysterical or lying or whatever. I am not. In fact most people who know me dont know anything like that ever happened to me as a child because I do not talk about it. I should not have talked about it here but I saw other people doing it on other threads and getting support and I thought it would be a safe place to let go a little.

I dont wish to hold any grudges and I dont want anyone to hold any grudges against me. I am just using MN to make friends and have a forum to talk about Mum stuff like everyone else.

I dont want to be dramatic but this has upset me that I so rarely talk about myself like this and the one time I did I am mortified and embarrssed by the negative reaction I got. Not by all posters obviously! I just wasnt prepared for those few comments.

Thanks. x

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beaniesteve · 07/05/2008 20:17

Gosh - I'm sorry if I made you think that you can't talk about it

eenybeeny · 07/05/2008 20:20

dont worry beanie. I dont think anyone meant any harm. I just shouldnt have said what I did. Its ok.

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