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ANOTHER Jane Austen Film Adaptation

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ParisPossum · 16/11/2024 09:33

Just seen that there is a new adaptation of Emma available to watch. While I do appreciate Jane Austen's work, it gets tedious seeing adaptations of the same novels; Pride and Prejudice has been done to death over the decades. If you could nominate your favourite fabulous classic (or two), what would it be? My vote would go to A Tale Of Two Cities and Barnaby Rudge.

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Gorgonemilezola · 18/11/2024 19:43

Paul Bettany/Benedict Cumberbatch both have the right demeanour for LPW and Rosamund Pike could have played Harriet Vane but they might be a bit too old now.

MissRoseDurward · 18/11/2024 20:49

I don't love any of the portrayals of Captain Wentworth! I know people love Hinds in that role, but I felt he was not young and handsome enough

Now I think Wentworth ought to be a bit rugged-looking. He's seen action and has been out of polite society for a while. There should be a definite contrast between him and the handsome, smooth-tongued Mr Elliot.

ReadWithScepticism · 18/11/2024 21:46

Who would you cast as Lucy Snowe?

The actor who immediately popped into my mind in response to your question @FierceQuiet was a young Andrea Riseborough. She is so stunningly talented, and so superb at making herself darkly determinedly compellingly unlikeable but still massively sympathetic.

MrsNotquiteAverage · 19/11/2024 11:00

The Georgette Heyer books that I think are strong enough to stand with some of the books quoted are 'The Toll Gate', it is a complete story with a proper ending. 'Cousin Kate' which could be fairly dark and gothic.
'Reluctant Widow' is fairly good but it has weaknesses. There is no rival for Elinor, just Lord Bossyboots, so that is a problem. The ending is very weak it wraps up in 2 pages. She must have finished it on the bus to meet a deadline.

Words · 19/11/2024 12:22

Exact @bruffin .

This is why I think of the first, masterly adaptation as more a documentary than a drama, Blushand haven't watched the new version.

The Farnons were always Mr Farnon or young Mr Farnon. With the exception of Mrs Pumphrey who used their Christian names (unshortened.)

Nah then Mister Farnon ( sighs happily)

Words · 19/11/2024 12:30

*exactly

Ok I will add my suggestions after all.

Tenant of Wildfell Hall as long as it sticks closely to the text. Such an under rated novel I have always thought.

Yes yes to LPW and also RF Delderfield and AJ Cronin.

As an aside, I was very much looking forward (against my better judgment) to the adaptation of the Gallows Pole - an excellent and historically believable novel about the Cragg Vale coiners, as it is local to me and I know the history and locations very well indeed.

It was awfully, horrifyingly bad with the actors improvising dialogue in modern English. Just cemented my prejudices about modern adaptations.

SlightlyGoneOff · 19/11/2024 13:15

ReadWithScepticism · 18/11/2024 21:46

Who would you cast as Lucy Snowe?

The actor who immediately popped into my mind in response to your question @FierceQuiet was a young Andrea Riseborough. She is so stunningly talented, and so superb at making herself darkly determinedly compellingly unlikeable but still massively sympathetic.

Oh, that’s a brilliant idea, @ReadWithScepticism — I should have thought of her! Good call!

@Gorgonemilezola, good shout on Benedict Cumberbatch or Paul Bettany as Peter Wimsey — he can’t be too good-looking, but needs to be attractive despite that. I can’t see Rosamund Pike as Harriet, though — Harriet has to be dark-haired, and she’s so fair, she’d probably look weird with a dye job.

bruffin · 19/11/2024 13:26

Words · 19/11/2024 12:30

*exactly

Ok I will add my suggestions after all.

Tenant of Wildfell Hall as long as it sticks closely to the text. Such an under rated novel I have always thought.

Yes yes to LPW and also RF Delderfield and AJ Cronin.

As an aside, I was very much looking forward (against my better judgment) to the adaptation of the Gallows Pole - an excellent and historically believable novel about the Cragg Vale coiners, as it is local to me and I know the history and locations very well indeed.

It was awfully, horrifyingly bad with the actors improvising dialogue in modern English. Just cemented my prejudices about modern adaptations.

I wish they would repeat Diana, or make it again. I missed the last episode and the BBC never repeated.

MissRoseDurward · 19/11/2024 13:51

The Georgette Heyer books that I think are strong enough to stand with some of the books quoted are 'The Toll Gate', it is a complete story with a proper ending. 'Cousin Kate' which could be fairly dark and gothic.

Well I would agree with The Tollgate of course 😁 It would have the Peak District scenery to provide atmosphere too. The Talisman Ring is another possibility. Two leading male characters to appeal to different tastes, and a fair amount of action.

Jonathan Chawleigh in A Civil Contract would be a marvellous role for an actor, but there's not enough else to make an adaptation of.

MrsNotquiteAverage · 19/11/2024 14:01

Jonathan Chawleigh is a great character.
Talisman Ring is certainly a possibility.

The Foundling, two episodes?
Is there enough in "Ajax" to keep it going? Another weak ending IMO

Trickedbyadoughnut · 19/11/2024 14:11

Maray1967 · 18/11/2024 19:27

What’s wrong with Rupert Penry Jones? !! And Anthony Head was great as the baronet.

Actually, nothing and I think he should have been perfect, but I think it was the overall production that fell a bit flat for me.

I know, I'm picky about my favourite!

Trickedbyadoughnut · 19/11/2024 14:13

MissRoseDurward · 18/11/2024 20:49

I don't love any of the portrayals of Captain Wentworth! I know people love Hinds in that role, but I felt he was not young and handsome enough

Now I think Wentworth ought to be a bit rugged-looking. He's seen action and has been out of polite society for a while. There should be a definite contrast between him and the handsome, smooth-tongued Mr Elliot.

Yeah, rugged I could handle - I guess it boils down to: I didn't fancy Ciaran Hinds 😅

mogtheexcellent · 19/11/2024 14:50

I would love to see more adaptions of M E Braddons works. They did a dire version of Lady Audleys Secret in the 90s but otherwise nothing. Currently rereading Wyllards Weird and it would make an amazing mini series with gorgeous landscapes and the mysetrious death of a young french girl.

On another note with childrens books I would love to see an adaption of The Ordinary Princess. There was a jackanory of it in the 70s or 80s.

Maray1967 · 19/11/2024 15:06

Trickedbyadoughnut · 19/11/2024 14:11

Actually, nothing and I think he should have been perfect, but I think it was the overall production that fell a bit flat for me.

I know, I'm picky about my favourite!

!! Yes, I know - I’m hyper critical about productions of Sense & Sensibility.

CurlewKate · 19/11/2024 16:50

@Gorgonemilezola "Paul Bettany/Benedict Cumberbatch both have the right demeanour for LPW"

Both too tall...

SlightlyGoneOff · 19/11/2024 16:54

CurlewKate · 19/11/2024 16:50

@Gorgonemilezola "Paul Bettany/Benedict Cumberbatch both have the right demeanour for LPW"

Both too tall...

Isn’t LPW 5 ft 10”? BC is 6 foot…

CurlewKate · 19/11/2024 17:22

@SlightlyGoneOff I thought he was 5'9? Short enough to be self conscious about it...

MissRoseDurward · 19/11/2024 17:26

Isn’t LPW 5 ft 10”?

Not even that, I don't think. Doesn't Harriet remark in Gaudy Night that they are much the same height?

Gorgonemilezola · 19/11/2024 18:35

Maray1967 · 19/11/2024 15:06

!! Yes, I know - I’m hyper critical about productions of Sense & Sensibility.

I quite liked both the Emma Thompson S&S and the Hattie Morahan's mini series. I like Elinor Dashwood immensely. Marianne Dashwood makes me want to beat things and scream. She is an appalling character who thoroughly deserves Willoughby. Little cowbag.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 19/11/2024 18:37

JaneandtheLaundry · 16/11/2024 09:50

Yes I want more PG Wodehouse adaptations. That cove had quite a way with words.

I want Dorothy L. Sayers done for television! The old radio plays are still great, but television could add so much more.

MrsNotquiteAverage · 19/11/2024 20:12

Peter Wimsey: How do we feel about the Jill Paton-Walsh books? I like them it's difficult to see the join IMO. The dialogue seems right for the later settings
Which leads on to her Imogen Quy stories, I did read one but I can't remember it.

user2848502016 · 19/11/2024 20:14

The Tenant of Wildfell Hall would be a good one

Lostthetastefordahlias · 20/11/2024 06:48

@user2848502016

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0115387/

There is an adaptation of that with Tara Fitzgerald and Toby Stevens.

The Tenant of Wildfell Hall (TV Mini Series 1996) ⭐ 7.3 | Drama, Romance

53m | 15

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0115387

MorrisZapp · 20/11/2024 08:31

Death Comes to Pemberley is a superb adaptation of a recently written sequel to P and P. I don't even like Jane Austen but this is a brilliant crime mystery with a supernatural tinge. Anna Maxwell Martin and Joanna Scanlan both outstanding.

FierceQuiet · 20/11/2024 09:39

MissRoseDurward · 19/11/2024 17:26

Isn’t LPW 5 ft 10”?

Not even that, I don't think. Doesn't Harriet remark in Gaudy Night that they are much the same height?

You're right, she does say that (it's the bit where she wears his gown), but I'm pretty sure he's described as 5 ft 10 in another novel, but I can't think where.

I thought it was in Murder Must Advertise, but it's only that when Peter suggests dressing up as a policeman in order to be smuggled out the back door of Scotland Yard in order to established that Death Bredon and Peter Wimsey are different people, Parker says 'you're a bit under the regulation height'. Google suggests that most police forces had 5 ft 10 as the required height, but Nottingham had 6 ft in the early 20thc.

Oh, have just found Peter saying he's 5 ft 9 in Clouds of Witness, when he and Parker are climbing over fences. Which would make sense both of being close to Harriet's height (which I'm remembering as 5 ft 8"?) and being slightly too short for his borrowed constable's uniform.