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Has anyone else seen this...and actually understood what it was about?! Cause..it started off quite well then quickly became bonkers and ended! Thought be a twist or some deeper meaning where probably is..but not for me lol.

I quite liked it, mad a box of frogs at the end, perhaps it's showing men constantly wanting to be babied and blaming women for their behaviours. who knows. very creepy film.

Yes, I think you have it Nitgel - thought it was all about how the tale of Adam and Eve has convinced men to hate women for their own male iniquities and downfalls, because all women are merciless temptresses who lead them astray or some such bollocks...(reminds me of a particular brand of men who seem to have it in for Meghan for being beautiful, seducing Harry and allegedly forcing him to ruin his family relationships, when really he's a grown up who has made his own decisions!)

Also, so glad to see Jessie Buckley scooping up good roles!

I think it was about how men harm women - aside from the obvious trauma from her husband, all of the men Harper met in the village made her uncomfortable in some way. Even just by forcing her to have a prolonged guided tour of the house or not letting her buy her own drink, or standing naked in front of her. I don't know if they were all meant be the different characters but she saw them with the same face as they were all just sharing the same male traits?

Was the giving birth thing about men letting their attitudes and behaviours go down the generations, thereby breeding boys who grow into men who still treat women in the same way? And then her pregnant friend provided the foil to this - a woman who will give birth to a real baby vs these men 'giving birth' to their monstrous selves?

It was a difficult one though. I didn't really understand the ending - who crashed her car? Where was all the blood from, did she really kill somebody? Or was that not real?

Weird!

*all meant to be different characters

Not seen it but agree about Jessie Buckley who is very talented and good in everything I have seen her in.

I wonder if the watching experience is different for men than for women? I (F) found it very scary, particularly the parts about a man watching the house. My male partner didn't, and it just made me think how different it might be for men.

@StellaAndCrow I agree that it's probably different for a man to watch. My DP was just expecting and out and out horror/thriller and I don't think he picked up on the nuances re male/female interaction.

For example, when she entered the pub and her landlord bloke wouldn't let her buy herself a drink so she felt pressured to sit with him, and also when he insisted on showing her round the whole house at the beginning rather than just leaving her to it. Plus the vicar touching her leg, and the 'boy' calling her a bitch when she refused to play his game.

All of those things registered with me as a woman, but I am 100% sure my DP wouldn't have picked up on them, beyond the obvious creepiness/nastiness of the boy.

I wasn't at all clear at the end that I was understanding it but still liked it well enough - which is quite a recommendation considering I don't love horror films 😂

I think the birthing thing probably was the idea that these men create each other (enabling, etc). What actually happened and whether any man was there and had a knife/axe/car taken to him was the bit I really wasn't sure about!

GlitteryGreen Yes, and the weighing up she had to do, as to which was the least risky option - accept a drink and stay to talk, is it safe to decline, will he turn nasty?
And when he's shown her round the house, and she realises he's not leaving easily, standing at the door waiting for more.

It's the first film I've really thought of men and women experiencing it differently

I'm watching right now, almost finished. I thought it was good; the bizarre horror at the end worked well somehow.

I thought it was good but weird. The bit at the end was supposed to represent the cyclic rebirth of toxic masculinity, or so I read.

I noticed her friend who turned up at the end was pregnant- any idea of the significance of that?