Darkest Hour

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Anyone seen this. I thought it was brilliant! Really tense, even though we know what happened.

I've only just caught up with this and thought it fascinating. It really brought home just how much danger we were in in 1940 - it must have been terrifying to think the Nazis could land at any time and we would all have been left trying to defend our towns as best we could, in the same way as the French and Belgians had to.

It also brought home the fact that Churchill must have been a total pain in the neck for an awful lot of the time - but he was the pain in the neck we most needed at that time. And he was absolutely right, there is no way Hitler would have felt bound by any surrender terms we negotiated.

I really liked it, but thought the tube scene was far too long and rather mawksh.

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Yes I've seen Leon. It's an excellent film.

Saw it last night and was surprised by how tense I felt, even though I knew exactly what was going to happen. Some of the art direction was breathtakingly beautiful.

The scene on the tube though and the bit where the King turned into some kind of shit Pot/Kettle therapist and asked WC if he was close to his parents did pull me out of the moment a bit. Was there any real need for it? Could he not have achieved much the same thing by talking to his secretary?

I don't think talking to the secretary would really have achieved the same thing. Apart from anything else, the relationship with her is depicted as still very much a boss/employee one, albeit on a friendly basis; whereas by the end the relationship with the King is on much more of an equal level - which I think I read somewhere is more or less what actually happened.

Utterly brilliant. . If Oldman doesn't get an Oscar it will be a travesty.

I didn't care for it, very simplified, all broad brush strokes. All these films depict Churchill as basically senile - you'd get more sense out of a bloke in a nursing home. He was in his 60s, not 90s. People looked older back then, but that's all.

One interesting bit relevant to today's times - the need by Chamberlain and Halifax to get it in writing that Churchill would not negotiate with Hitler under any circs. That pertains to today, I've found - local authorities ie social services are very keen to get stuff in writing to fit you up. What they write down doesn't have to be true. But by putting it down in writing, to them it's as if it is true, or makes it true - it's a bit of magic for them. And if you don't refute it, that means it continues to be true. And if you don't know about it, you can't refute it.

I learned about this by dealing with my elderly mother in care homes, but it applies just as well to any single mum getting done over by social services.

All these films depict Churchill as basically senile - you'd get more sense out of a bloke in a nursing home

I don't think we saw the same film....

Sorry found it pretty boring, was actually clock watching. Too wordy and shouty and the tube scene was very odd. On the other hand I liked Dunkirk very much.

I enjoyed it..but not as much as I thought I would..preferred Dunkirk and Hacksaw Ridge. Haven't been able to see Journeys End as it was shown in very few cinemas for a very limited time. Most disappointed about that.

Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri is a far better film...more deserving of the Oscar.