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Eyelasher · 27/10/2011 20:12

I loved this film although take tissues as i wept for.. well most of it. Fabulous acting, funny and tragic and really hits home how trapped ALL of them were in one way or another.
I havent read the book for a year or so and I am sure a couple of slight things were different to how i remembered.

Also refreshing to have men as incidental roles.

Also they had my mums coffee percolator - also bought in 1963. So GENYOOINE

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boogiewoogie · 27/10/2011 22:13

I really enjoyed this too, a real tear jerker though.

Hard to decide who was the best in their respective portrayals. Octavia Spencer (Minny) was fabulous, Viola Davis (Aibeleen) and Jessica Chastain (Celia) gave very touching performances but Sissy Spacek as Hilly's senile mother was absolutely hilarious.

Think I'll read the book again.

Eyelasher · 28/10/2011 09:35

yes and i liked Old celia Foote

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pipsqueak · 28/10/2011 17:54

quick question - am deperate to go out after rubbish week at w ork and can t fix sitter now - does anyone know if this would be ok for fairly mature 10 y o dd ?it is 12A and review says contains themes of racim and one crude scene - any views much apopreciated ..

Bossybritches22 · 28/10/2011 17:56

Ooh is it a film now???

Just finished the book & LOVED it!!!

Might try & take the DD's.

pipsqueak · 28/10/2011 17:58

how old are you r dds bossy ? am thnking of going tonight with dd 16 and dd 10 but bit bothered about youngest in light of classifcation (12a) - it cant be that bad can it?

mandoo · 28/10/2011 18:05

I haven't seen the film yet but I think it would be fine for a 10 year old. The only part in the book I can think of that's mildly rude is a bit where there is a nude man lurking in the bushes of one of the characters houses. It may not even feature in the film-they do tend to cut things from the original novel if it's not majorly relevant.

Looking forward to seeing it as much as eating a large bucket of popcorn!

pipsqueak · 28/10/2011 18:06

thanks mandoo - am going for it . sure it will be fine . popcorn excellent idea!

Eyelasher · 28/10/2011 19:40

I can't think what the crude scene is? They say shit.

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boogiewoogie · 28/10/2011 20:43

Perhaps they are referring to the "Terrible Awful" as Minnie puts it. Don't really want to give too much away especially if you haven't read the book. I would think that type of humour, a 10 year old is used to.

Bossybritches22 · 28/10/2011 23:54

I agree with mandoo-probably the one with the intruder waving his todger through the bushes!

pipsqueak mine are 16 & 14 yrs old, but after talking to them tonight the youngest isn't bothered. Going to cinema tomorrow & might let her & her chum see "Johnny English" whilst I take DD1 to The Help.

Let me know what you think?!

pipsqueak · 29/10/2011 01:00

dd 10 yo loved it . it is a really moving film but also has some very good comedy moments - i dont think there was anything unsuitable as such - the only thing that could have been the crude bit was the "terrible awful" but it was such a funny moment i dont think i would have describe it as crude ! the only other thing was the bathroom scene with celia but very fleeting scene and more upetting and certainly not crude . all in all, she said it was the best film she had ever seen and i think it was a good way of showing something that is quite hard to explain . dd1 also 16 loved it as well but spent most of it crying!! so relieved it was good as it was one of my favourite recent books . hope you all enjoy it too

Eyelasher · 29/10/2011 09:57

I think the depth of it and legal bits are lost on any under 15 to tbh. Bit would get the vague idea.

Any one find some of the dialogue Hard to hear? The two maids giggling in kitchen for eg

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lilibet · 04/11/2011 12:08

We read this as a book group book and went to see it as a group. My complaints about the film were the same as about the book - far too long.

I felt that with some judicious editing the book could have been amazing but it went on and on and on without the plot advancing at all.

Much the same with the film, I am well known for crying at almost anything but didn't shed a tear.

The casting was excellent and there were some incredibly good performances but I was bored and restless towards the end.

SlinkingOutsideInSocks · 11/11/2011 01:33

Far too long? God, I had to ration myself towards the end of the book as I didn't want it to end. Likewise, the movie zipped by - didn't realise it was 2.5 hours until I got out afterwards and saw what the time was.

I am usually really let down by movie adaptions of books, but thought this was good and yet they managed to capture a lot of the book.

It still had a rather Hollywood feel-good sense to it (Minnie being served dinner by the Footes, for example, was way too hammy - if only that sort of thing did actually happen) but nowhere near as much as I was expecting it to.

When I finished reading the book, all I wanted to do was talk to people about it! I still find it difficult to get my head around the fact that this is (was?) my parent's generation - that it was illegal for black and white people to mix socially in America, of all places, only 10 years before I was born. And also to think that black people lived with this sort of domestic terror for 100 years before the civil rights movement changed things. And this 100 years was the post-slavery era when they were 'free' - that it was so worse before that is mind-boggling.

I loved the character of Aibileen in the book and thought that Viola Davis's portrayal was the best in the movie. She really did the character justice.

The casual cruelty that affected so many people's lives (thinking, as well, of the small (and grown) children left devastated when the people that raise them are dismissed without a backward glance) and yet they were forced to carry on living and serving these people and woe betide if they give even a hint that they minded.

And again - that this all took place so, so recently and in a country which defines itself on freedom, equality and brotherhood.

SenseofEntitlement · 11/11/2011 02:38

I have been wanting to see it for a while, but put off by the reviews of it being patronising and quite offensive. Is that a fair point, would you say?

SlinkingOutsideInSocks · 11/11/2011 20:15

Well, a bit, yeah... Like I say, Minnie getting served dinner was patronising. If they had to do that, why didn't they all just sit down and pile into the food together, like genuine friends? Because they weren't and never could be. That scene wasn't in the book, and while Minnie and Celia did actually help each other out in some really fundamental ways, in the book it seemed more realistic in that there was no pretence that they could be equal under Jim Crow/segregation/pre-civil rights America.

But while there was a dose of this, it did also show some of how shit it really was for people, and they didn't hold back on portraying the white Hilly as an absolute bitch. I wondered if they might tone this down compared with the book, and luckily they didn't.

So yeah, it was flawed in as much as it was pretty much what you'd expect from Hollywood (gloss, feel-good, palatable to a wide audience, etc, etc) but there were lots of lessons and enlightenment for people as well.

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