Do Reform leaders misunderstand working class values and experience?

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To think that Reform leaders being all privately educated, and men, have a problem with working class, especially working class women, and keep getting it wrong?
Working class people have pride, we have- literally- class. The houses working class families bought have sometimes appreciated as the areas changed. Sometimes people move and rent property out. These,are all ways working class people made the best of a very modest income. With hard work and wise decisions.
They were responsible people because they had to be.
There were many pitfalls. Addiction , extremism. These things affect the more wealthy but the money cushions it. Working class people know - we can't lead whilst sitting in a pitfall. Self discipline was paramount. Those who came through sometimes became very strong. The proverbial working class hero was yes often a male image- but was not all over the internet trying to shame women.

Absolutely not defending Reform in any way, but Reform Chairman Lee Anderson is working class and was educated at a comprehensive school.

His mum was a factory worker, his dad a miner and Lee worked as a miner himself for a decade. He's also worked in the Citizens Advice Bureau and with homeless care leavers.

As politicians go surely he knows more than most about the working class.

Well - he knows about one bit of the working class. He's not a working class woman for example.
But if he knows about the working class why is he holding up saying ignorant things as characteristic of the working class? Actually when you look at how Reform conduct themselves it's more of a policy position of reform, that people act ignorant. A lot of their bots seem to be programmed to use a strange kind of poor English that sounds not like people whose English is genuinely poor.
It's an affectation

"But if he knows about the working class why is he holding up saying ignorant things as characteristic of the working class?"

That'll be because he's a cunt.

Hmmm.

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I miss the laughing emoji

He's not a working-class woman, for example.

Angela Rayner is a working-class woman. Some might say “socialist at work, capitalist at home.”

Being working class is no guarantee of anything - not political wisdom, competence or moral virtue. Just as being privately educated is no guarantee of the opposite.

I suspect we would all be in a better position if we put less faith in ideologies and more faith in substance.

He’s got people in my area down pat. Small business owners, miners, self employed. They share his values. I don’t align with Reform, but they’ve not got much wrong in my area.

30p Lee has clearly forgotten his time working to support people in poverty, because he hasn't a clue of the buying power of the GBP any more.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61414951?app-referrer=webview

Lee Anderson started off as a local Labour politician (and was quite on the left of the Labour party), then defected and became a Tory MP, then became a Reform MP. If he's an example of Reform being representative of the working class, he's also an example of how Labour and the Tories are representative of the working class.

To be honest, he seems more representative of a chancer.

How are they getting it wrong if they're overwhelmingly in the lead?

Exactly, they must be getting something "right" if they managed to convince so many working class people to vote so clearly against their own interests.

Getting it wrong, how? They’re polling massively well in these areas.

The misogyny strikes the wrong note for working people in the UK, no question of that: you won't find women on estates teaching their daughters how to fawn on men, looking delicate. Go to the expensive part of town, though, and all you can see are big booming rugger boys, with a pastel halo of tea-dressed ladies.

So why the error? Reform have swallowed a lot of MAGA Kool-Aid, and the trad thing comes straight from the South, complete with a colour bar. A docile wife, in the US, codes for a white wife. The UK has its own issues with race, of course, but they don't map onto the kitchen sink as they do in America. In the meantime, of course, it's funny to watch Reform getting it so wrong.

Getting it so wrong that they look likely to be the next government.

I'm.actually wondering if the plan could have been to throw the Makerfield election. Since only this really explains how awful the candidate is.