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Saudi woman executed for murdering husband

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Strictlysober · 08/09/2025 12:26

A Saudi woman has just been executed. She killed her husband by pouring acid on him while he was asleep. A horrible crime. She appealed, but I don't know whether the appeal was against the guilty verdict or against the death sentence. There is nothing online that I can find which explains the motive of the killing. It's simply been withheld, as though the crime happened in a vacuum. There must be a big back story, I'd guess about domestic violence, and it's being kept from the public.
Saudi woman executed in Mecca for murdering husband with acid | News Minimalist

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raspberryberet7 · 08/09/2025 12:31

It’s Saudi or course it’s being kept from the public

Strictlysober · 08/09/2025 12:40

Do you think that society is so well-controlled that there's nothing on this circulating online? Family and neighbours must know some of the background to this. Is it possible to stifle it completely, in the internet age?

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OverlyFragrant · 08/09/2025 12:41

Strictlysober · 08/09/2025 12:40

Do you think that society is so well-controlled that there's nothing on this circulating online? Family and neighbours must know some of the background to this. Is it possible to stifle it completely, in the internet age?

Culturally Saudi is very anti women. The family likely covered up her abuse.

jonthebatiste · 08/09/2025 12:53

Strictlysober · 08/09/2025 12:40

Do you think that society is so well-controlled that there's nothing on this circulating online? Family and neighbours must know some of the background to this. Is it possible to stifle it completely, in the internet age?

I don’t want to sound patronizing, but you are very naive. (1) Do you think YOUR news and YOUR social media isn’t censored? How have we never seen footage of inside goings on of government, the cabinet, random goings on in corridors of power, parliamentary committees, royal family meetings, local council meetings, newspaper rooms, arms companies, rail companies, trades unions meetings etc. You may think these are justified. Every country will decide for itself what is justified. (2) Do you think KSA is the only middle eastern country to censor its news? Every so-called open society and so-called democracy does it (cf Israel). (3) Why do you presume domestic violence? How do you know she wasn’t, for example, mentally unstable? Or that this wasn’t a financial dispute? I’d be interested to hear why you jumped to the conclusion of domestic abuse.

Lurkingandlearning · 08/09/2025 13:43

Strictlysober · 08/09/2025 12:40

Do you think that society is so well-controlled that there's nothing on this circulating online? Family and neighbours must know some of the background to this. Is it possible to stifle it completely, in the internet age?

Family and neighbours may well have agreed with the punishment. If so anything published would be from human rights activists so you’ll probably need to dig deep

Strictlysober · 08/09/2025 16:25

Where women are largely kept within the home and the law is biased in favour of men, you'll find plenty of domestic violence. Apparently the level of domestic violence in Afghanistan is extremely high. Anyway, here's a paper which looks like a useful starting point on the issue in Saudi.
<a class="break-all" href="https://www.arab-reform.net/cookies.html?backurl=www.arab-reform.net/publication/domestic-violence-against-women-in-saudi-arabia-a-persistent-dilemma-amidst-claims-of-reform/?tztc=4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Domestic violence against women in Saudi Arabia: A persistent dilemma amidst claims of reform – Arab Reform Initiative

https://www.arab-reform.net/cookies.html?backurl=https://www.arab-reform.net/publication/domestic-violence-against-women-in-saudi-arabia-a-persistent-dilemma-amidst-claims-of-reform/?tztc=4

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FlowerWrath · 08/09/2025 16:31

She murdered her husband and was punished accordingly…

Strictlysober · 08/09/2025 16:39

jonthebatiste · 08/09/2025 12:53

I don’t want to sound patronizing, but you are very naive. (1) Do you think YOUR news and YOUR social media isn’t censored? How have we never seen footage of inside goings on of government, the cabinet, random goings on in corridors of power, parliamentary committees, royal family meetings, local council meetings, newspaper rooms, arms companies, rail companies, trades unions meetings etc. You may think these are justified. Every country will decide for itself what is justified. (2) Do you think KSA is the only middle eastern country to censor its news? Every so-called open society and so-called democracy does it (cf Israel). (3) Why do you presume domestic violence? How do you know she wasn’t, for example, mentally unstable? Or that this wasn’t a financial dispute? I’d be interested to hear why you jumped to the conclusion of domestic abuse.

We're talking about keeping an appeal hearing in a criminal case (nothing to do with national security) in Saudi's equivalent of the Supreme Court completely and permanently secret (other than for the outcome). Of course a country's justice system (which all citizens are subject to, even to the extent of execution, and which they fund through tax) should be open and transparent to citizens. Half of your examples are of private organisations - why would you expect their meetings to be open to the public? Parliamentary committee meetings and local council meetings are often open to the public or the media.
There is an enormous amount of domestic violence in Saudi Arabia - just have a look at reports online. That's hardly surprising, when men are given so much power over women in their families. So people will of course assume domestic violence - it's by far the most likely motive behind the killing. If you don't want people to jump to the obvious conclusion, then don't make your criminal trials secret. In a healthy society, people can talk about problems in their country based on actual facts, rather than having the problems hidden from them. And then you complain that that leads to people speculating!

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Walkden · 08/09/2025 16:45

"There must be a big back story, I'd guess about domestic violence, and it's being kept from the public"

Nice victim blaming OP.

I'm no expert on Saudi law but I doubt it allows pre meditated murder. It's not like she can claim to have snapped and acted in self defence when she must have obtained the acid in advance and patiently waited until he was vulnerable.

jonthebatiste · 08/09/2025 17:23

You are so embedded in your Anglo-Saxon, Western "democratic" ideals and principles that I don't see the point in engaging with you.

Theocracies run differently from democracies (not that the UK is the best example of one, but it seems to be what you're positing as an unquestionable moral standard). As the news today will evidence on any page of any newspapers, democracy (such as it is) doesn't seem to be serving its people well enough to hold an unquestionable moral high ground.

People live differently in different countries. The day you can assert that the UK doesn't have a problem with women dying in unspeakable numbers due to domestic violence; the day you can claim complete transparency of the UK's justice system; the day you can claim that the UK's justice system is open to all <hollow laugh>; heck, the day you can claim that women have parity with men in any meaningful aspect of society in the UK - that's the day you can make assumptions based on a perfect system and legitimately question other people.

I'm not saying terrible things don't happen in KSA. Of course they do. I'm questioning your moral superiority.

CaroleLandis · 08/09/2025 17:30

The Ministry of Interior stated that the woman, Husn bint Mutib Al-Tuhaimi, killed her husband by pouring acid on him while he was asleep. She was arrested, tried, and sentenced to death due to the brutality of the crime. The ruling was confirmed by the Supreme Court and endorsed by a Royal Decree, reflecting the Kingdom’s stance on ensuring justice and deterring such crimes.

A planned, calculated deliberate act to cause immense suffering and death. I‘m she was executed .

Strictlysober · 08/09/2025 18:05

I agree that it was a terrible crime. But all of this "your country is not 100% perfect, so how dare you criticise a citizen going through the whole criminal justice system to the supreme court, and then being executed, without anyone in Saudi society being allowed to know anything about the context of the crime" is pathetic. Hiding societal problems (eg domestic violence) is not exactly conducive to improving life for your citizens, is it? Or maybe you think it does in fact help abusive men? Perhaps they're the priority.

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GingerBeverage · 08/09/2025 18:12

And are the Lush stores in Saudi closing in remembrance, or is it trading as usual?

FrippEnos · 08/09/2025 18:57

Why are you so keen to find a loop hole to support someone that murdered their spouse by pouring acid on them whilst they were asleep?

Walkden · 08/09/2025 19:01

"Hiding societal problems (eg domestic violence) is not exactly conducive to improving life for your citizens, is it? Or maybe you think it does in fact help abusive men? Perhaps they're the priority."

Your misandrist views are shining through, OP. There is a strong suggestion from you that the woman in question was driven to it by the murdered husband which is being " pathetically "hidden by those in power.

It is also possible that the wife was abusive and or was being unfaithful.

No one cares about the context or background/nuance for rapists because it is a heinous crime. So was this.

AMansAManForAllThat · 08/09/2025 19:15

She’d have been taking a massive risk to have an affair in Saudi.

This is a country where the ruler’s sisters disappeared until their death, if I remember correctly, despite people trying to help them.

Generally women don’t pour acid on their husband, when they have other options.

AMansAManForAllThat · 08/09/2025 19:17

Walkden · 08/09/2025 19:01

"Hiding societal problems (eg domestic violence) is not exactly conducive to improving life for your citizens, is it? Or maybe you think it does in fact help abusive men? Perhaps they're the priority."

Your misandrist views are shining through, OP. There is a strong suggestion from you that the woman in question was driven to it by the murdered husband which is being " pathetically "hidden by those in power.

It is also possible that the wife was abusive and or was being unfaithful.

No one cares about the context or background/nuance for rapists because it is a heinous crime. So was this.

One cannot rape defensively, so there will never be any exculpatory reason for rape.
One can kill in self defense though, and women generally need to use a weapon and catch him off guard to have any hope of success.

Walkden · 08/09/2025 19:30

"Generally women don’t pour acid on their husband, when they have other options"

Again nice victim blaming.

generally men don't kill their wives, or sons their mother's - but some do. Some women kill also; although the proportion is less than for men. She wouldn't be the first woman to throw acid on a partner or ex in anger.

"One can kill in self defense though"

Yes because sleeping people are a threat to life, and murdering them with acid is a proportionate response.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 08/09/2025 19:56

In any society where women are kept subjugated and under male control from birth till death, men are likely to commit domestic violence because they can get away with it. And women are likely to go mad.

RIP all the women killed by these regimes.

LemondrizzleShark · 08/09/2025 20:01

OP, do you read Arabic? How do you know this isn’t being discussed anywhere, just because you can’t find anything about it on Twitter?

AMansAManForAllThat · 08/09/2025 20:24

Walkden · 08/09/2025 19:30

"Generally women don’t pour acid on their husband, when they have other options"

Again nice victim blaming.

generally men don't kill their wives, or sons their mother's - but some do. Some women kill also; although the proportion is less than for men. She wouldn't be the first woman to throw acid on a partner or ex in anger.

"One can kill in self defense though"

Yes because sleeping people are a threat to life, and murdering them with acid is a proportionate response.

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Sleeping men can still be a threat to a woman.
How do you leave a dangerous man when you aren’t allowed out without an escort? How can you be safe when he’s awake if you aren’t allowed to leave him?

We don’t know the details of the case, which is why OP is wondering.

Strictlysober · 08/09/2025 23:02

LemondrizzleShark · 08/09/2025 20:01

OP, do you read Arabic? How do you know this isn’t being discussed anywhere, just because you can’t find anything about it on Twitter?

I'm not on Twitter. I've only seen news reports. I've searched online using the woman's name in Arabic, and only the very scant details that I've seen published in English came up.

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