Transwoman on women's ward

[Sallycinnamum]

Had a minor gynae procedure today but nevertheless was very anxious leading up to it.

Was wheeled back to the day ward to be greeted quite literally (started waving at me) by a transwoman in the bed opposite me.

There was no doubt he was a man and being completely immobile due to a spinal anaesthetic with no underwear on I asked the nurse to completely close the curtains so he couldn't look directly at me.

Spoke to a nurse who confirmed it wasn't a mixed ward.

I am so upset. I felt so vulnerable especially as I couldn't walk so had to pee into a bedpan in clear earshot of him.

I've emailed PALS but I feel so bloody fed up of it all. Had a man next to me in the M&S lingerie changing rooms a few weeks ago and was made to feel like a total bigot when I complained to the staff.

Don’t be ridiculous. NHS staff are vetted. Do you think patients are ?

And how are we supposed to identify them ?

Who must be supervised and checked. Abuse and rape happen in hospitals. Not all the perpetrators are other patients, some are staff and some are visitors. So genitalia on the ward, esp at night when patients are likely to be asleep and the nursing staff sitting at the desk with not every part of the ward visible, are very important.

Was this Brighton, by any chance?

No it's not Brighton. I'd rather not mention the area until I hear back from the hospital. It in the South East though.

Tell that to the elderly lady who was raped on an NHS ward by a transwoman and who was gaslit by the hospital who told police she couldn’t possibly have been raped because there were no men in the ward.

Rape and sexual assault is very much an issue in hospitals.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/british-hospital-allegedly-denied-rape-claim-because-perpetrator-was-transgender/amp/

You may have also missed the severely injured teenage girl placed on a mixed sex ward with several men and sexually assaulted by one of them? The nurses were apparently alerted because his heart monitor alarm went off.

And then there was the elderly stroke victim who was incapacitated in her bed and raped so severely her vagina was torn catastrophically and she bled to death. I don’t believe there has been a conviction for that.

What about the 100s of rapes per year committed by male hospital staff (!!), or the male midwives that now have a conviction for child sex offences?

Many of these rapes were entirely preventable - single sex wards, not offering women’s bodies as an incentive for men to join nursing (I forget which organisation came up with that doozy) , actual safeguarding rather than placing men who want to be near vulnerable women on women’s wards and screaming “bigot” and evicting women who politely object to a disruptive and aggressive male in their vicinity. Those in charge just appear to be struggling to find the will to prevent them.

This (and worse) has all happened in UK hospitals (although the sexually assaulted teenager may have been in the ROI. Due to the energetic attempts of the press, hospitals and often police to suppress reporting and publicity around these attacks, there are guaranteed to be many more. Let’s not be naive about the (avoidable) risks to women.

Its also to preserve privacy and dignity.

But no men on the ward, equals no rape on the ward. As you can see from the links above, that's a real thing.

I hope this clears up your confusion.

Other people’s genitalia concerns women who have been raped and children who have suffered sexual abuse. Unless you live in cloud cuckoo land.

You didn’t think any such thing, you’re just on here peddling your falsehoods again which all got deleted. I’m reporting your post.

Goodness, my point is that protecting people from sexual violence on wards will require more than simply ensuring that male patients are not on women’s wards.

There may be more required but not permitting a self selecting set of male patients on female wards would be a starting point.

Good job nobody thinks it's the only thing that needs to be done then.

But it is one of the things that needs to be done.

Be a good start though won't it?

Not to mention a big win for privacy and dignity.

Such as? Surely keeping the men out who use their genitalia to rape and sexually assault people is the most important thing? Or should we just ask them politely? 🤦‍♀️

This.

If trans woman would give the respect to women other men give they wouldn't need to police anything.

The entitlement is baffling

Put them in a mixed sex ward?

If trans identifying men would give the respect to women that they give to other men it would be a start.

I’ve just been on a gynae ward 4 weeks ago and not a single man including staff
my surgeon was female, the nursing staff were female and even the catering staff. It was nice, especially as a lot of the staff commented they had been operated on by my surgeon
I was in an open back gown with a pad under me and had to be watched while I went to the toilet and my urine measured. Very glad to have a side room

The idea that sex isn't binary and yet 99.999 percent of rapes are committed by men and trans women and 98 percent of rapes happen to women. Strange that. How do we even know? 🤔

Well, there does seem to be some evidence suggesting that they may have different brains

The classifier performed at 90.2% accuracy (AUC = 0.97) when assessed in the training sample and at 88.3% accuracy (AUC = 0.97) when assessed in our 48 cisgender brains. These measures indicate a suitable classification performance and a reliable distinction between the sexes based on brain anatomy. The estimated Brain Sex index was significantly different between the three groups (F(2,69) = 40.07, p < 0.001), with a mean of 1.00 ± 0.41 in cisgender men and of 0.00 ± 0.41 in cisgender women. The Brain Sex of transgender women was estimated as 0.75 ± 0.39, thus hovering between cisgender men and cisgender women, albeit closer to cisgender men (see also Figure 1). The follow-up post hoc tests revealed that transgender women were significantly more female than cisgender men (Cohen’s d = 0.64, t(46) = 2.20, p = 0.016), but significantly less female than cisgender women (Cohen’s d = 1.87, t(46) = 6.48, p < 0.001).

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8955456/

Sorry, what’s a cisgender man or woman?

A man or a woman who doesn't claim to be a member of the opposite sex.