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Disabled feminist author Lucy Webster receives 700 hate comments for recent speech posted on IG

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AliasGrace47 · 16/05/2025 03:37

Lucy went to my school & I heard about her when she came to give a talk. She's since become quite high profile, first working for the BBC, then writing a v good memoir, The View From Down Here, about the intersection of sexism & disability prejudice, and a TED talk. She's got a lot of hate for speaking against the assisted dying bill as she feels the recent care worker visa cuts and other cuts will hurt the disabled and push them towards it. .

A recent IG post by her and a friend bout disability and feminism received over 700 hateful comments. I know the hate speech laws on IG were too strict for stuff like trans, but apparently the new algorithm (need to check details) let some really vicious ableism in, and homophobia & misogyny too. It never happens on posts w just text, so she thinks her speech impediment set it off.

I think this kind of reaction really exposes the attitude too many men have to women they don't find attractive. Make that a disabled woman, and that goes up by 100. Lucy recent realised she was lesbian (she pointed out that the constant dating rejections and assumption disabled women are barely sexual, let alone a minority sexuality, made it v hard) and says she gets better responses from women even when rejecting, though obviously there is still prejudice there. I think it highlights the misogynistic element tho.

Disabled people are people it would require sincere effort to include. That would be true intersectionality for companies etc. We need to do whatever we can.

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MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/05/2025 12:43

I'm sorry to hear your friend was subjected to that. It's well known that women are heavily criticised for speaking out on any topic.

AliasGrace47 · 16/05/2025 20:43

I don't know her personally- she returned to give a speech at my school when I was in Year 7. I agree women often face misogyny for speaking out (esp about an unpopular topic).

But I think it's key, as she pointed out, that she received hate when she posted a video using her voice (she has a speech impediment). She doesn't get many hate comments normally. It was primarily bc she was disabled, but I wonder if a man would have received quir as much? Maybe yes...but the tenor of a lot was that she wasn't a real woman bc she's disabled & lesbian.

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MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/05/2025 21:09

AliasGrace47 · 16/05/2025 20:43

I don't know her personally- she returned to give a speech at my school when I was in Year 7. I agree women often face misogyny for speaking out (esp about an unpopular topic).

But I think it's key, as she pointed out, that she received hate when she posted a video using her voice (she has a speech impediment). She doesn't get many hate comments normally. It was primarily bc she was disabled, but I wonder if a man would have received quir as much? Maybe yes...but the tenor of a lot was that she wasn't a real woman bc she's disabled & lesbian.

I doubt she would have received so much as a man. I remember the vitriol directed at GCF during the height of trans rights. It was absolutely horrendous.

Then John Clease posted on it and people were discussing it with him rather than calling him names or threatening to rape him.

At the moment there's a big move against 'woke' and people are being rude by mocking characteristics such as disabilities. Apparently it's freedom of speech.

AliasGrace47 · 29/05/2025 17:17

MiloMinderbinder925 · 16/05/2025 21:09

I doubt she would have received so much as a man. I remember the vitriol directed at GCF during the height of trans rights. It was absolutely horrendous.

Then John Clease posted on it and people were discussing it with him rather than calling him names or threatening to rape him.

At the moment there's a big move against 'woke' and people are being rude by mocking characteristics such as disabilities. Apparently it's freedom of speech.

I agree.. I think quite a few MNers have been rather blind to the fact that people who oppose the transgenda on the internet are often genuinely transphobic, not just pointing out the real issues. Think of the way they make KiwiFarms out to be at worst edgy, when they're actively hateful against not only trans but also disabled people. X too- recently a trans teenager committed suicide & they got thousands of posts urging them to do it. Lots of people on X etc are only opposing trans as a veil for hate.

And no, being anti-woke is never an excuse to be hateful. I do understand how the extreme language policing did drive some people in the opposite direction, but at the end of the day, they have a choice. I've heard people on mumsnet say they don't tale homophobia etc allegations v seriously bc they're fed up w language policing, but they still take misogyny seriously, and rightly so. It's hypocritical to say woke has made you feel up w justice movements, but then still actively support the one that affects you.

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AliasGrace47 · 29/05/2025 17:19

Part of the woke backlash seems to be using the r word a lot. A lot of this is US stuff travelling over here. Oddly for the more religious country which censors pics of breasts on platforms like IG, their Internet speak is much cruder & more pornified, often. I hope that kind of unpleasant trend dies down soon.

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