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Double barrelled surname

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LifeOnAmber · 18/04/2024 15:23

I don't quite understand double barrel surnames. Let's look at history the reason why women took the name of the man was because men own women as property. Yes it's only been just over 100 years when this stopped. So it made sense that now the man has acquired a new property she has his name and not her father's name.

The way we should move on from this is by allowing women to keep their own identity so you would retain your father's or family surname. However if we think we are doing a compromise by going for double barrel to surnames then why should we

A solution would be for the children to keep the fathers surname but have the mothers surname and a middle name.

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 18/04/2024 15:34

Do you mean mothers surname as a middle name?

The surname 'tradition' isn't that old. It was only really in the 19th century that taking a husband's name became standard in the UK (and never fully caught on in Scotland). Maiden name as as middle name for the children and double barelleing were both common throughout history. Not really any difference between the 2 until you get to the next generation.

Fashions in family naming systems come and go, and some people will always come up with their own solutions. No point trying to be prescriptive.

Revelatio · 18/04/2024 15:40

What history are you looking at? A certain period in England?!

Nobody thinks in terms of property anymore so your argument is irrelevant. I don’t understand from your argument why the default would be to keep the man’s name, you could just keep the woman’s name and have the man’s as the second? Your first name was also given to you, nobody suggests changing that too.

Your name is yours, and in Britain you are free to do with it as you wish. You can change it, leave it, combine it, make up a new one.

Who owns who in same sex marriages, what are your weird and wonderful suggestions for that?!!

NameChange1412 · 18/04/2024 15:42

I’m double-barrelling mine when I marry DP because I want to recognise our marriage as well as keep my own name, it’s pretty much as simple as that. I’m due our first baby this year and baby will have the double-barrelled name also.

WhereIsMyLight · 18/04/2024 15:45

My DC’s name is double barrelled. I kept my surname, as did my husband (not that anyone asks him). Why should he get the default of his surname for our mutual child though? Why does my surname have to be relegated to a middle name and can only be used on rare occasions? Why is that your default when women carry and birth the child and in many cases are the default parent? I don’t like DC’s double barrelled surname but it was a compromise because I certainly wasn’t having my surname not included at all.

PaperStarred · 18/04/2024 15:45

It’s deeply sexist to view a woman’s surname as somehow not really hers, but her father’s, while a man’s surname is somehow securely his. It never occurred to me to use anything other than my birth surname before or after marriage, and the only conversation we had about DS’s surname was which order our surnames sounded best in.

Illpickthatup · 18/04/2024 15:56

What happens if 2 people with double barrelled names get married or have children?

I'm pretty sure this is common is Spain for kids to have both their mother's and father's surname. But when both parents already have double-barrelled names which one are passed down to the children?

NoBinturongsHereMate · 18/04/2024 16:22

There's a system in Spain for which ones get passed on - cant remember the details but some from each side.

fedupwithbeingcold · 18/04/2024 18:20

I'm Spanish. You can pass down whichever one you want but all your children must have the same one

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