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Another surrogacy news story...

35 replies

TheseCowsAreSmall · 23/02/2024 16:16

This time from Northern Ireland. Couple have bought a baby from Ukraine and couldn't get out, leaving their teenage son at home alone.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68370377

I'm sorry for the loss of their daughter but surrogacy is abhorrent & unethical. Exploitation of women's bodies & the trafficking of babies can never be justified.

And that name...

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TheNameIsDickDarlington · 24/02/2024 19:49

GreenYoshi12 · 24/02/2024 17:24

Do you show concern for the adoptive mother as well if you adopt?

The people I know who have adopted or fostered babies did show concern and compassion for the birth families and, where possible, kept communication and visits open and regular.

Which is what is recommended by the social workers.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 24/02/2024 20:39

GreenYoshi12 · 24/02/2024 17:24

Do you show concern for the adoptive mother as well if you adopt?

Another ridiculous comment. Are you seriously comparing responsible adoptive parents,who will have been vetted and prepped and who are stepping up, where the birth parents have failed to this vile situation?

pickledandpuzzled · 24/02/2024 20:51

Of course people feel concern for the birth mums when babies go for adoption. I’ve worked with them. It’s desperately sad but it’s the least bad option- the babies can’t stay with inadequate parents.

and this story is a shit show. Criminally reckless. And needing special treatment.

ADoggyDogWorld · 24/02/2024 20:57

Poor baby, poor surrogate mother, poor teen boy left behind. I feel so sorry for the commissioning couple, of course I do, they have suffered a devastating bereavement.

Buying a baby is never okay. Never.

Lifeinlists · 24/02/2024 21:03

I noticed there was no mention of the baby's mother at all. No mention of whose egg was used, but presumably not the 'commissioning' woman. BBC News website has form for airbrushing inconvenient details about surrogacy so that doesn't surprise me.

Absolute off the scale entitlement. As someone as has already said, they need therapy not a child to play with. It does say that he may have a brain injury, though whether that is true or not, who knows. I hope he hasn't. They may have some explaining to do when he's older though.

@GreenYoshi12 maybe have a think about the difference between providing a solution for an already born child whose parents cannot provide adequate care for whatever reason (adoption) versus a child created deliberately and for the sole purpose of being given away at birth, often after a substantial sum of money has changed hands (surrogacy). I agree with you that it is like buying pets from abroad. But that's not good, is it?

taybert · 24/02/2024 21:07

@GreenYoshi12 the adoptive parents I know have spent a lot of time thinking about the birth parents actually.

Emotionalsupportviper · 04/03/2024 15:19

Putadonkonit · 23/02/2024 20:10

The mother must have been very desperate to become pregnant in this situation whilst living in a war zone. This is massively unethical. And as PPs have said, not at all healthy for their older son. Incredibly selfish.

She must have been desperate indeed.

No mention of her, her situation, any other children she may have that she perhaps needs the fee to feed and care for.

Totally selfish IMO.

Emotionalsupportviper · 04/03/2024 15:25

Aydel · 24/02/2024 14:57

Due to a previous job I met several people who used Ukrainian surrogates. Not one of them showed any concern or consideration for the birth mother once they had the baby.

Jaunty Beau is a ridiculous name. It’s like fashion advice “tie the scarf in a jaunty bow.”

I wonder if it was misheard and it was "Jonty" rather than "Jaunty"

This is a common-ish abbreviation for Jonathan.

Still doesn't excuse the fact that they have commissioned and bought a child, and in the middle of what appears to be a war of attrition, at that.

Surrogacy is appalling - it's nothing less than trafficking no matter what sort of gloss they try to put on it.

Edited because autocorrect had changed "common-ish" to "communist"

WelcomeMarchwithwintrywind · 04/03/2024 15:35

”The couple decided to go down the surrogacy route and travelled to Ukraine in August 2021 for medical appointments and to get the embryos created.
When Russia invaded Ukraine, the surrogacy clinic evacuated the embryos but last year the couple were contacted to say the process could restart.
The embryos were successfully planted in the surrogate and the couple travelled to Kyiv in late January ahead of the baby being born.”

What does ”the surrogacy clinic evacuated the embryos” mean? The embryos were sent to a safer country, they were moved from inside the surrogate (aborted), or something else?

NoBinturongsHereMate · 04/03/2024 17:35

Frozen embryos moved to a safe place/country.

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