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How can we stop all this? It's really upsetting me

41 replies

0scopo · 10/01/2024 08:31

www.theguardian.com/society/2024/jan/10/children-now-biggest-perpetrators-of-sexual-abuse-against-children

I wish the feminists here cared more about this stuff than the trans debate. I think it's much more of a risk to our girls and young women. I am so worried about my two young girls. It's not just that these boys watch it and might try it out but that they grow into men who are wired to be sexually excited by awful violent stuff. How can we stop it?

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DifficultBloodyWoman · 11/01/2024 09:25

I wish the feminists here cared more about this stuff than the trans debate.

I’m a woman (and a feminist). I can multi-task.

0scon · 11/01/2024 09:27

Whyisegg. Thank you for your thoughtful posts. You're right, I really don't know what to do other than discuss it with my daughters. I don't have sons.

I'm sorry that other posters felt attacked, I was really just pointing out that I wish this was big news and something the government was prioritising above other issues. I realise people can care about lots of issues obviously. It just seems as though this one is not being dealt with anywhere.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 11/01/2024 09:47

It just seems as though this one is not being dealt with anywhere.

Then you probably need to spend more time on the main feminism board. It comes up all the time.

0scon · 11/01/2024 11:21

NoBinturongsHereMate · 11/01/2024 09:47

It just seems as though this one is not being dealt with anywhere.

Then you probably need to spend more time on the main feminism board. It comes up all the time.

I meant in the real world I suppose. I know that they teach about consent in schools but these kids shouldn't be having access to harmful porn in the first place. Parents can put loads of safety stuff on the phones but it only takes a school friend to show them it instead.

popebishop · 11/01/2024 11:49

0scon · 11/01/2024 09:27

Whyisegg. Thank you for your thoughtful posts. You're right, I really don't know what to do other than discuss it with my daughters. I don't have sons.

I'm sorry that other posters felt attacked, I was really just pointing out that I wish this was big news and something the government was prioritising above other issues. I realise people can care about lots of issues obviously. It just seems as though this one is not being dealt with anywhere.

I think OP has namechanged so people skimming the thread won't see her posts and will continue the argument...

I think people genuinely don't know what's going on or how to stop it. So many parents on here don't even know the basics of what's app etc on their own phone let alone what's on their kids'.

Tech has run far ahead before law has even thought about catching up. We simply don't know what to do with it, as a society. And it'll get a million times worse with AIs and nets that are black boxes so people can't even see how they work.

Kids shouldn't be having devices they can see porn on, that much seems obvious, but it will take time to figure out how to stop it. I genuinely don't see what's wrong with restricting kids to dumb phones and monitoring computer/tablet use at home. But it would be hard to put the genie back in the bottle. And it's not just kids affected by the porn, it's the adults in their lives too.

Agrona · 11/01/2024 22:33

There has beeen a large increase of sexualised drag queens and other performers entertining children. Many people are tageting children on social media, for example TikTok, and the conversations are not monitored and often inappropriate. There is also the influence of men like Andrew Tate.

Women are talking about these issues and trying to deal with them along resising the attempts to remove women's single sex spaces, awards, rights etc by Trans Activists. Men are quite happy to listen to other men, who pretend to be women, complaining about how 'transphobic' women are for wanting to retain these spaces.

Yet no matter how much women do, they are always expected to solve the problems they did not create.

AyeDeadOn · 11/01/2024 22:37

You know what will really help? Making girls share changing rooms and toilets with boys. 🙄

Agrona · 11/01/2024 23:01

Entertaining!!!!! Argh!!!

Resisting!

Can I type anything without mistakes?

SaturdayGiraffe · 12/01/2024 09:46

Feel like this headline should be posted in the threads about not letting kids do sleepovers.

ArabellaScott · 12/01/2024 21:01

I would suggest maintaining a strong relationship and open communication with your children - of either sex - is a good place to start.

Active listening has been my best parenting tool so far.

Emotional literacy, teaching girls they are not obliged to be a doormat, teaching boys respect obviously and consent in terms of boundaries right from very young.

AdamRyan · 13/01/2024 10:02

Agree op
The Internet is a wild west and porn (for me) is where it most clearly shows up. All this rape and violence towards women being tolerated because "its acting". The harm to everyone in society caused by what porn is doing to how people interact socially.

I personally think there is also a link between porn and transgender in men. Porn companies find transgender porn topping the list of what men are watching.

But try to talk about it, you will get hard pushback on any ideas about regulation or tackling it in any way. Its too hard apparently and the only answer is for parents to stop teenagers accessing the Internet (as already seen on here).

Also be aware threads like this attract a certain type of man.

Are you aware of CEASE? https://cease.org.uk/

Home - CEASE / Centre to End All Sexual Exploitation

CEASE is a national human rights charity. We expose and dismantle the commercial and cultural forces driving all forms of sexual exploitation in the UK.

https://cease.org.uk

RebelliousCow · 13/01/2024 15:44

The 'trans debate' is very much about women's and girls' boundaries and about issues of consent.

Fimofriend · 15/01/2024 12:31

I think it is very generous to assume that OP is a woman. To me the post read as "How to tell someone you are a man without telling them you are a man".
It reads very much an attack of us EEEEEVIL feminists who are so busy trying to hurt transwomen's feelings that we don't have time to safe guard children.

"You don't want anyone with a penis in women's prisons, toilets, hospital wards, and changing rooms? But what about the children?" Seriously? Grow up!

OneMorePlant · 16/01/2024 02:10

The trans debate is a result from rape culture, the pornification of our society and the devaluation of women.

Changing school toilets and changing rooms into unisex because of the gender feels endangers young girls even more within current society.

So the evil feminists that are yapping on about the trans issue probably care more about the safety of young girls than you do OP

DewHopper · 16/01/2024 20:27

Weatherwax13 · 10/01/2024 09:09

Christ, I can't imagine a feminist on the planet whose main concern isn't the sexual abuse and exploitation of girls and young women. The power of male entitlement and violence - and the toxicity our boys are being exposed to - is the reason we fight for our rights and those of our daughters.
The whole reason we worry about the trans issue is the pervasive nature of males infiltrating our spaces and claiming membership of the female sex. It's frightening that we're expected to roll over and accept this further incursion.
Our priority is the safety of girls and women from men.
Full stop.

THIS.

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