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Men feel proud of their sexual experiences, but in the case of women, it's the opposite. Why is that?

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Melisaaaaa · 12/10/2023 09:40

Saw this question in an anonymous feminist chat group, a girl says that men are born with a sex weapon, and they need to practice to be an expert.

My question is What about women?

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DidIMissOut · 12/10/2023 13:44

I have no idea what the sex wespon means.
I do know there are men who use sex as a way to degrade women.
And now, under the name of ’kink’, abuse women.

But just the title: no I do not agree, at all.
Women are very proud of their sexual experiences.
So much so that they shame women who care about less, or bot at all.

I wish people would move on the the actual current times.
Women are very much allowed to have sex, and they do. No one shames them for having it, no one is againts women having sex. Women who have sex aren’t some wild rule breakers.

StopStartStop · 12/10/2023 13:57

It isn't true that women don't get 'shamed' because they have sex. The Incel/4-chan world regards a woman as less valuable the more partners she has - much as society might have done fifty to a hundred years ago.

Do men show pride in their sexual experiences when they're talking with women, or more often when they're talking with men? No man has ever said to me 'I shagged Sally. I gave her a really good time.' Oops, tell a lie. One did. But he was an outrageous shagger who'd had far too many women for the health of our small town. Generally, they seem to keep that kind of talk for other men.

How do women 'show pride' in their sexual experiences? I don't know many women who talk about their sexual history. Are you all bragging away, somewhere I can't hear you? Maybe so.

Men use their physicality (general strength etc as well as the penis and the ability to make women pregnant) to subdue women and gain advantages for themselves, as individuals, groups and as the whole society of men. That's what they're doing with their 'sex weapon'.

Cowlover89 · 12/10/2023 14:20

DidIMissOut · 12/10/2023 13:44

I have no idea what the sex wespon means.
I do know there are men who use sex as a way to degrade women.
And now, under the name of ’kink’, abuse women.

But just the title: no I do not agree, at all.
Women are very proud of their sexual experiences.
So much so that they shame women who care about less, or bot at all.

I wish people would move on the the actual current times.
Women are very much allowed to have sex, and they do. No one shames them for having it, no one is againts women having sex. Women who have sex aren’t some wild rule breakers.

Nothing wrong with a bit of kink if it's consensual

Notanotherhousepost · 12/10/2023 14:21

I'm not ashamed of mine but I find it interesting DH frequently mentions it when he slept with enough women to fill a small sports stadium.

SwordToFlamethrower · 12/10/2023 14:26

I've been with ny husband for 9 years and he has never even asked me how many sexual partners I've had.

For him it's one. He literally doesn't care.

DidIMissOut · 12/10/2023 14:39

The Incel/4-chan world regards a woman as less valuable the more partners she has - much as society might have done fifty to a hundred years ago.

And people (women too) shame women who don’t have sex.
Most likely the same men you mentioned would call women prudes, frigid, bitches, vanilla, boring etc, for not having sex.

Women talk about their sex lives all the time, and are very proud of it. Listing this their willing to do and how fast they had sex, and how many.
Have done this for years and years.

Nothing wrong with a bit of kink

Plenty wrong with it.

Disturbia81 · 12/10/2023 15:13

Awful isn't it.. all the old sayings about a key can open many locks but a lock shouldn't be opened by many keys.. It's so awful. So men get to have many sexual partners but not women? It's so controlling and backwards

PermanentTemporary · 12/10/2023 15:20

Any man who believes he has a 'sex weapon' is on the wrong tack to start with. Internet rubbish.

But I will be honest, one of the many great pleasures of sex on my 50s is that nearly everybody, male and female, knows what they're doing. Some REALLY know. Compared to my teens and 20s when neither me nor my partners had much of a clue. I did have some dalliances with younger people which was nostalgic and fun but the lower level of expertise was sometimes noticeable. Sex, like any hobby, gets better with practice.

C1N1C · 12/10/2023 15:52

Following on somewhat from @StopStartStop

These are not my opinions, I'm literally quoting a podcast I saw...

The guy said that men and women are not equal because they see the world differently and want different things. Women are attracted to men who are characteristically 'dominant', i.e., tall, strong, powerful, assertive, financially successful, confident etc... men are attracted to women who are beautiful, meek and "not difficult".

He said that strong successful men attract many women, and being sexually promiscuous is a desire for men, and in turn makes him more attractive to other women because if other women want him, he must be good. Women should just accept this from a successful man.

He said that men want something different from women. Men don't care about what a woman makes, her success, her power, popularity or ambition. A man just cares that she is 'his'. This is why men lust over the OnlyFans girls, but would never marry them. The worst thing that can happen to a woman is to be raped (his words), but for a man, it is to find out a child isn't his.

I find all of the above massively sexist, but from those comments, it answers your question. To be attractive to men, a woman has to be chaste and loyal because signs of the opposite risk a guy's worst nightmare (a child that isn't his). Successful men get lots of sex, so to boast about sex is to 'demonstrate success'???

As I said, not my views, but another perspective?

Disturbia81 · 12/10/2023 16:58

C1N1C · 12/10/2023 15:52

Following on somewhat from @StopStartStop

These are not my opinions, I'm literally quoting a podcast I saw...

The guy said that men and women are not equal because they see the world differently and want different things. Women are attracted to men who are characteristically 'dominant', i.e., tall, strong, powerful, assertive, financially successful, confident etc... men are attracted to women who are beautiful, meek and "not difficult".

He said that strong successful men attract many women, and being sexually promiscuous is a desire for men, and in turn makes him more attractive to other women because if other women want him, he must be good. Women should just accept this from a successful man.

He said that men want something different from women. Men don't care about what a woman makes, her success, her power, popularity or ambition. A man just cares that she is 'his'. This is why men lust over the OnlyFans girls, but would never marry them. The worst thing that can happen to a woman is to be raped (his words), but for a man, it is to find out a child isn't his.

I find all of the above massively sexist, but from those comments, it answers your question. To be attractive to men, a woman has to be chaste and loyal because signs of the opposite risk a guy's worst nightmare (a child that isn't his). Successful men get lots of sex, so to boast about sex is to 'demonstrate success'???

As I said, not my views, but another perspective?

Yuck.

PermanentTemporary · 12/10/2023 17:47

My experience is that male prats may say they value women less if they've had more partners, but if you say 'oh well, I have sex partners like I have tennis partners, I'm obviously not the one for you' and get up to leave, they miraculously find that it's all a load of shit.

Admittedly if they're that much of a prat you might want to leave anyway. But if you want to play a set, you don't actually have to talk to them.

TeiTetua · 13/10/2023 16:08

Thankfully, the moral double standard seems to have pretty much faded away. But I wonder if there's a sort of double standard in judgements about people's intelligence. We won't question it when people have a few sexual partners while they're single, but if "a few" becomes "a lot", then we might think a woman, more than a man, has been acting recklessly. Or has been looking for something she'll never find, or has been letting herself be exploited.

Actually I'm not sure how much approval a man would get for having sex with a lot of women. Maybe there are places where he would, but I think the social outlook now is more that everyone should find one person to settle down with, and if you can't do that, hopping around is nothing to boast about.

Siameasy · 14/10/2023 09:28

I’m not sure that promiscuous women are valued or have ever been valued at any point in history. The double standard is likely rooted in a need to prove paternity.
It may be unpalatable but that doesn’t make it untrue. There are double standards for both sexes but women only complain when it affects them.
Men and women are very different and I think that forgetting this has fuelled the transgender movement. Feminism caused transgenderism.

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