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The Rainbow Flag Award primary schools

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Jayneisagirlsname · 25/09/2023 19:33

Hi
I work in a primary school and I've just seen we're aiming to achieve the Rainbow Flag Award this year. I feel really uncomfortable about this but I'm struggling to express why. Can anyone help me with this? I'm happy to stick my head above the parapet and talk to my headteacher but need to be articulate.
Are there any alternatives we could look at?
Thank you for any help

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dementedpixie · 25/09/2023 20:24

What do you need to do to achieve it?

pictoosh · 25/09/2023 20:33

Hmm...I suppose primary aged children needn't be worrying about their, or anyone else's, sexuality.
But then again, children will have LGBT parents, relatives, family friends and teachers so I can see where it would fit in.

JemOfAWoman · 25/09/2023 20:50

This boils my p**s! Yes there are children who have LGB parents and surely isn't it about not signalling that these families are any different?

Also, there are children who have disabled parents. Where's the recognition of that?

Where's the recognition that some children may have parents who don't speak English?

The amount of time and energy that goes into virtue signalling for a tiny minority makes me fume!!!!

Jayneisagirlsname · 25/09/2023 21:06

It's hard to see what you have to do to achieve it, as you can't get a lot of the materials until you've paid. That's part of my concern. So far we've been asked how comfortable we are including LGBTQIA's++ in our classrooms and if we should have pronouns on our lanyards 🤷🏼‍♀️

I agree about the other types of diversity, where's the recognition?

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Titerama · 26/09/2023 07:44

Taking your question at face value, it seems like you are struggling to articulate your discomfort because it has no foundation beyond your apparent concerns with mentioning pronouns or being asked about your level of comfort with LGBT discussion.

So you could start by articulating more on what it is about a rainbow flag that has you so concerned. Be honest with yourself - why is this niggling at you?

Challenging with “but what about other diversity” is quite literally Whataboutery.

Titerama · 26/09/2023 07:49

Talking to children about gay people and families is not “worrying about sexuality”

Gay people are not “a tiny minority”

Diversity and equality is not a zero sum thing - if you think other things need attention (disability, ESOL) that’s a separate conversation you can raise independently of attention to awareness and destigmatising of gay people.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/09/2023 07:58

learning that some people have 2 daddies or 2 mummies - fine

suggesting to 5 year olds that if they are a boy who likes having long hair and wearing a dress - not fine

as dir including for example A which generally stands for assexual - they’re at primary school!! They shouldn’t be thinking about their sexuality yet

pronouns - it’s not the job of small children to be affirming adults delusions that they can change sex or indeed are so super special they are NB

I suggest a read of the Cass report

Glamourreader · 26/09/2023 08:13

Your instinct is spot on, feeling uncomfortable about signing up to something when they are not being open about what it involves.

endofthelinefinally · 26/09/2023 08:17

Look at Safe Schools Alliance.

PoseasRadicalActuallyMisogynistic · 26/09/2023 09:29

Contact sexmatters for guidance. they have thoroughly researched the law on this. Give it to the SLT.

https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/schools-guidance/

Guidance for Schools - Sex Matters

Sex Matters and Transgender Trend have developed new guidance for schools.

https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/schools-guidance/

Jayneisagirlsname · 26/09/2023 12:12

I'm not uncomfortable with gay people at all.

Being honest, I have a problem with the TQI etc. I don't believe that people can change sex. I think women and girls are entitled to single sex spaces. I am concerned about safe guarding issues.

Actually, having written that, I think what is making me uncomfortable is that this award lumps together a whole group of people, some of whom don't want to be lumped together.

Thanks for the suggestions, I will follow it up.

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BlessedKali · 26/09/2023 23:19

Q stands for queer. Ask your headmaster to look into queer theory - queer theory is the blurring of boundaries, and when that comes to adults and xhildren the problems are obvious.

Ultimately school children do not need to have sexual training. its weird

PTSDBarbiegirl · 26/09/2023 23:26

3 words:
Drag Story Time.
No thank you.
Stop othering LGB kids & parents by flying a fucking pointless flag. Piss off and offer a real, genuinely diverse education.

BoJo50 · 05/10/2023 14:29

Think you need to confess to some sort of festish .

KareenaQueena · 16/01/2024 19:38

Rainbow TQ+ has no place in primary schools. Inappropriate and a safe guarding issue. Young children don't have a sexuality.

If they are sex non-conforming there is evidence to show it's likely they will grow up to be gay or lesbian. Which is healthy.

To affirm an opposite sex identity is psychologically damaging.

I would be asking why they feel compelled to pay for this this and which other organisations have guided the school.

The Spencer Academy uses Rainbow Award in both primary and secondary schools.

Very concerning. They think 'trans children' exist.

They need help and support not celebrating.

BoJo50 · 17/01/2024 05:07

To be honest let children be children without trying to force an ideology on to them. Wasn't to long ago when a certain school introduced litter trays for those who identify as a cat.

Instead of forcing the whole school to accept there is over a thousand different genders why not have a different class for those that are interested.

SammyScrounge · 23/01/2024 02:48

Jayneisagirlsname · 25/09/2023 21:06

It's hard to see what you have to do to achieve it, as you can't get a lot of the materials until you've paid. That's part of my concern. So far we've been asked how comfortable we are including LGBTQIA's++ in our classrooms and if we should have pronouns on our lanyards 🤷🏼‍♀️

I agree about the other types of diversity, where's the recognition?

No, you shouldn't have your choice of pronouns nor should children be asked to choose. It's a denial of reality and can only confuse children. And your reward? A garish flag and a gold star. It's so cringeworthy.

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