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Is there like a (support) group or something I can donate to or help for single and childless women?

49 replies

OnedayTwodays · 31/08/2023 12:52

Maybe seems like a weird question, but I was wondering.
Partly because that is a group I’d like to help and partly to perhaps meet other women like me who are in a same situation and support each other.

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Lentilweaver · 31/08/2023 14:29

Are there really any organisations that solicit donations for impoverished childfree women? I would be surprised. I would expect there to be organisations for impoverished women, with or without children. Gateway offers support in other ways, not financial support.

DrivingCadillacsInOurDreams · 31/08/2023 14:43

I'm imagining a basket at the tills in John Lewis, or Fortnums - please customer, help the suffering single women and donate (brand new, unopened) cashmere, gold leaf gin, luxury candles...

I kinda get where you're going OP but no, I'm not sure this is a demographic that's looking (en masse) for charity aid.

user1477391263 · 31/08/2023 14:48

We’re all aware that single CF women can be poor; but “being single and CF per se” generally does not cause women to become poorer. Why not just donate to causes that help women generally.

JoanOgden · 31/08/2023 14:52

Sorry OP - I was just very much reminded of the Society for Impoverished Gentlewomen in a 1950s novel by Barbara Pym. Fortunately these days single women have as many career opportunities as single men, though I agree of course that there are costs and difficulties involved in being single.

66rabbits · 31/08/2023 15:19

Personally speaking, as a single and childfree woman, I think it's a wonderful idea 😁

minipie · 31/08/2023 15:24

I can understand a support group for women who want children and can’t, or are struggling TTC

I can understand a support group for women who are single and not happy about it

(Of course not required for those happily single and childfree)

I can’t understand why these groups would need donations?

EmpressaurusOfCats · 31/08/2023 15:25

OnedayTwodays · 31/08/2023 13:24

Single women only have one income, on average make less money.

The society is made for coupled up people and parents, there is still left over stigma.

Single people CAN be lonelier and more isolated.

Need of people who are in same situation / lifestyle.

Pp’s listed things couples/parents/kids can have prrpöems with, but there is so many charities and meet-up or whatever to them already. And I don’t, persobally, have motivation or place in these things.

Hobestly, I don’t really ynderstand why so many snippy responses. On feminist site no less.

The thing is that while I agree we only have one income, and some of us may feel lonely or isolated, you're making it sound as if we must all be in need of help and coming across as a bit patronising.

OnedayTwodays · 31/08/2023 16:08

I guess I can see that.
Tjere is a long history of seeing single/childless women as less than…
But the thing is, some of us are struggling.
And the pressure to be strong and happy makes it worse.

But yes, of course there are women who are more than happy and choose to be and stay single and childless.

We’re not all the same.

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EmpressaurusOfCats · 31/08/2023 18:04

No, we’re not, and I’m sorry you’re finding things tough. Come & talk about it on the childfree board.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 01/09/2023 10:07

I'm imagining a basket at the tills in John Lewis, or Fortnums - please customer, help the suffering single women

Could use some Fortnum's stuff if it's going spare. 😆

ToastyCrumpets · 01/09/2023 10:11

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 31/08/2023 13:13

I’d have thought they are generally in a better position relatively financially than single women with children, or even many women in partnership with children. Yep, they’ll be poor and rich single childless women, but compared with having a child as well they’ll be better off

Why do you think this, as a matter of interest? We still have mortgages, bills, food shopping, unexpected expenses....we aren't ALL the high flyers on mega salaries that seems to be a common misconception about single women without children.

This, but also people without children get next to no help from state benefits if they fall on hard times compared to people with children.

Which is understandable, but does put single people - particularly women with the ongoing gender pay gap, so who may not have been able to build up savings - in a difficult position.

HelenFisk · 01/09/2023 10:27

I’m not single but I am childfree.

I’ll happily take a donation from you, OP.

Now, I do have a household income of over £300k, own several properties, and drive a shiny new BMW, but not having children clearly makes me a charity case so I’m not too proud to take your money.

mondaytosunday · 01/09/2023 10:33

I think single sole parents with no support from the father would need donations more! The only single/child free women I know are higher income earners as they spent the time developing their careers.

Wednesdaysotherchild · 01/09/2023 10:36

I’d take this to the childfree board OP as you’ll get a lack of sympathy from those with kids on this. It’s all about families in our society, don’t you know! I’m not single but grieving and childless. I’m on a lot of ‘non-mum’, ‘childless not by choice’ etc groups on FB do that might be a place to look/ask.

Lentilweaver · 01/09/2023 11:04

Except some of the child free women on here are equally baffled, so it can't just be us family obsessed folk.

Blanketenvy · 01/09/2023 11:24

I'm not sure there is such a place but I do kind of get what you are thinking about. I'm childless and recently single in my 40s and it's absolutely terrifying. I have no idea how I am going to afford to live on my own, I can't work any more hours due to health issues, have minimal support from anyone as health stuff has made it very hard to stay connected to friends, do any hobbies etc and it's shit and isolating and I feel really flipping sad that I don't have the kids, partner, stability of my own home that a lot of people not in my situation take for granted, but obviously not the case for everyone there's a lot of very happy childfree women who are very connected and financially stable.

Embarrassednamechangeadoddle · 01/09/2023 11:30

Op I understand why you feel single/childless women are a demographic that aren’t considered as much as other demographics. However I think you need to hone down what support you think is needed and what you think would help. You idea at the moment is a bit to general
and vague.

I wouldn’t donate to some generic issue, but would to something more specific - like a grant for single women in financial crisis, or donations to support a women’s support group for single women who feel lonely, etc I might support.

MeetMyCat · 01/09/2023 11:37

What a strange thread - do we send in international rescue teams and the Red Cross?

MeetMyCat · 01/09/2023 11:38

Or could Bob Geldof help?

Whataretheodds · 01/09/2023 12:05

OnedayTwodays · 31/08/2023 16:08

I guess I can see that.
Tjere is a long history of seeing single/childless women as less than…
But the thing is, some of us are struggling.
And the pressure to be strong and happy makes it worse.

But yes, of course there are women who are more than happy and choose to be and stay single and childless.

We’re not all the same.

But you're the one lumping them all together!

What is it you're really looking for, OP? Is it company from other single women who don't have kids? Because that is really easy to achieve. Woman are far more likely to get involved in activities than single men.

Whereabouts are you based?

BubziOwl · 01/09/2023 12:54

I understand why you want to meet other childless, single women

I don't understand why you think donating money is a good way to meet them

I understand why single people face financial barriers, but I don't understand why you think that not having a child is a financial problem...

user1477391263 · 02/09/2023 09:57

ToastyCrumpets · 01/09/2023 10:11

This, but also people without children get next to no help from state benefits if they fall on hard times compared to people with children.

Which is understandable, but does put single people - particularly women with the ongoing gender pay gap, so who may not have been able to build up savings - in a difficult position.

The “gender pay gap” is mostly a “mother pay gap,” though.

If you compare childless men and childless/childfree women, (or men in general vs childless/childfree women), the differences are pretty trivial these days.

I think you’re kidding yourself if you think that government benefits provided for kids are even close to the costs of raising a child!

ZiriForEver · 02/09/2023 22:24

This thread shows, why the original question totally makes sense.

No-one says that every single child free woman is in need, but those who are, definitely are an easily overlooked demography.

user1477391263 · 03/09/2023 08:11

No, it doesn't make the original question make sense, because just donating to organizations that help women in general would achieve the same objective.

Helping people specifically on the grounds of childlessness/childfreeness only really makes sense if you are operating within a social structure in which such women are actively disadvantaged as a result of their being childless (example: in rural China, elderly people with no surviving children are often left with no care in old age and shunned by the community, because in China there is a heavy expectation that elder care will be provided by immediate family, and in the case of a childless elderly couple, the worry is that "If we are nice to them, they will become "our problem" and a burden). I suppose the OP could try to find a way to donate to these kinds of groups, but there isn't really going to be an equivalent in developed countries.

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