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Fem coded is a new one on me!

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Raininspring · 13/04/2023 19:23

Just seen this on social media.
There’s a discussion on wheelchair users and how skirts and dresses fit differently when in a chair. Entirely legitimate and valid point!

The term ‘fem coded’ is used by someone in the comments…… this is a new one to me, so just wondered if this is a popular term? Albeit used by people who think anyone who says they are a woman, actually are.

Fem coded is a new one on me!
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Titerama · 13/04/2023 22:12

In this context fem coded is just a shorthand for a person who is wearing clothing typically worn by females - specifically skirts and dresses.

It’s not a big deal.

What is a big deal is how hard it is to get clothing suitable to wear when using a wheelchair. It’s very poorly understood and hardly any clothing designers take it into account.

Accessible clothing lines are a tiny bit more visible now than a few years back, and thank goodness for the internet making it easier to find and buy.

But there’s still not a whole heap of choice. Wheelchair users often wind up getting clothes adapted, which is a high cost, and it’s getting harder to find someone with the skills to do the adaptations well now.

Bosky · 14/04/2023 03:33

"fem coded folks" - I'm only surprised they didn't spell it "folx".

It's a deliberate, jarring and politically-motivated turn of phrase when "people" would have served perfectly well.

There's a load of publicly funded "research" and narcissistic wittering by activist academics into "fem" this and "fem" that, but especially "femmephobia / femophobia / feminophobia". It's all men dressing as "feminine" women whilst purporting to be feminists and obsessing over their invented phenomenon of "anti-femininity".

Redebs · 14/04/2023 03:36

Well, there's women and...

Titerama · 14/04/2023 05:29

Seems like you are looking for a way to be offended by this to the point where you don’t even mention the subject - wheelchair clothing that doesn’t flash your underwear.

Feminine female fem-coded - whatever. It’s skirts and dresses in this context, and it’s not complicated or difficult to understand that’s the intention of the twitter comment.

Bosky · 14/04/2023 05:36

Titerama · 14/04/2023 05:29

Seems like you are looking for a way to be offended by this to the point where you don’t even mention the subject - wheelchair clothing that doesn’t flash your underwear.

Feminine female fem-coded - whatever. It’s skirts and dresses in this context, and it’s not complicated or difficult to understand that’s the intention of the twitter comment.

To repeat: "people" would have served perfectly well.

Titerama · 14/04/2023 05:52

people would have served perfectly well

How so? People wear a whole lot of different clothing including trousers.

The tweet was about skirts and dresses, which are socially coded as female / feminine / fem in our society.

WeWereInParis · 14/04/2023 06:15

Titerama · 14/04/2023 05:52

people would have served perfectly well

How so? People wear a whole lot of different clothing including trousers.

The tweet was about skirts and dresses, which are socially coded as female / feminine / fem in our society.

Sorry, I've not come across the phrase before - can I ask, would a woman in a pair of women's jeans (and a woman's top) not be "fem coded" then?

Bosky · 14/04/2023 06:32

Titerama · 14/04/2023 05:52

people would have served perfectly well

How so? People wear a whole lot of different clothing including trousers.

The tweet was about skirts and dresses, which are socially coded as female / feminine / fem in our society.

Context. It would have been perfectly obvious and unambiguous from the context. That's how communication works.

Bosky · 14/04/2023 06:34

WeWereInParis · 14/04/2023 06:15

Sorry, I've not come across the phrase before - can I ask, would a woman in a pair of women's jeans (and a woman's top) not be "fem coded" then?

Good question. This exposes the fact that the person replying was inserting unnecessary, politicised language into the discussion.

Titerama · 14/04/2023 09:47

Tops are also tricky for female wheelchair users - just in case anyone on this thread is actually interested in that, rather finding a problem with fem-coded to mean skirts and dresses.

They typically need to be slimmer and shorter in the sleeve to avoid catching in wheels when self-propelling, but not so tight as to restrict movement.

Can be a real pain to find something big enough to fit muscly shoulders in women’s styles (aka fem-coded)

DocStrangelove · 14/04/2023 19:55

Thank you for sharing this information and the link @Titerama I have learned a lot--quite interesting to read on Unhidden page the different design elements/adaptive features for a range of bodies.

OzempicClicker · 14/04/2023 20:09

People like this love the word "coded" because it sounds science-y.

Titerama · 14/04/2023 21:25

OzempicClicker · 14/04/2023 20:09

People like this love the word "coded" because it sounds science-y.

Who exactly do you mean by “people like this” @OzempicClicker?

That tweet is by and for women who use wheelchairs. Using that phrase to describe them is pretty awful and dehumanising.

Titerama · 14/04/2023 21:31

DocStrangelove · 14/04/2023 19:55

Thank you for sharing this information and the link @Titerama I have learned a lot--quite interesting to read on Unhidden page the different design elements/adaptive features for a range of bodies.

Take a look at Liberare as well - they’re amazing in underwear that isn’t a hideous struggle to get in or out of.

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Shop Liberare’s collection of functional & fashionable bras and underwear designed by disabled women. Easy to use adaptive apparel for truly every body.

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