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I'm just so sick and tired of the hypocrisy and lack of thinking

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ChiefWiggumsBoy · 23/03/2023 23:28

Forgive me, I just need a small rant.

I was listening to Radio 1 in the car earlier and the news came on - top news story was about Nicola Sturgeon and how only one person slated to take over from her would pursue the Gender Reform bill. They interviewed a non-binary individual - and as an aside, would you believe, I think that young enby was actually female?! - anyway. They interviewed a few people who were all chagrined that the bill didn't pass, and one young woman who said she no she wouldn't ever vote in favour of a similar bill, as it's far wider reaching as it has impacts on sports, women's quotas, safety etc. They then go back to the aforementioned enby who says "well that's not happening is it? This bill doesn't erode women's rights, it just gives people like me rights we don't have".

<eyeroll>

Of course, I appreciate they only have limited time and there's an obvious bias - but the second piece of news was about child runaways who were placed in adult homes which a) goes against safeguarding rules, and b) is literally dangerous! If I had been alone I would have been screaming at the radio this is the exact point of the previous piece of news!

Later on, I'm scrolling through Tiktok. I follow this woman who does the whole "takedown of the men" schtick. Liked her a lot until today. Someone asked her about TERFS, and she does a vid about how she thinks it's because they're either scared of trans women because they're all straight men trying to get into women's spaces - in reality trans women are FOUR TIMES more likely to be attacked than anyone else. Second reason is because they see trans women taking something away from them, and that feminists reduce 'women' to bodily functions. Third reason I can't remember but I know she ended on TERFs being white cisgender women and that gender expression isn't the same as sex. I commented that being a woman literally means being an adult human female, and that she clearly has no understanding of radical feminism or feminism of any kind....and she thought that was hilarious. I'm tempted to respond but I know I'll get angry and she'll use it as fodder so I've just unfollowed.

But I'm still mulling it over because it made me so cross. Everything boils down to - I'm telling you what to think and feel and that's ok, but if you do that to me I'll get all sad and possibly hurt myself because you're the big bad meany.

Ugh. Sorry that is LONG and boring but I needed somewhere to vent and I don't have a diary! Thanks if you bothered reading :)

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Happylittlechicken · 24/03/2023 06:45

In total agreement with you. I used to be very #bekind and “live and let live”, but once you see the hypocrisy, misogyny and woman hating nastiness you can’t unseebit. Then you educate yourself more, and find out the true depths.

DustyLee123 · 24/03/2023 06:47

It’s just so depressing. The ‘Karen’ thing is still going round on TikTik too 🥺

SeaDee · 24/03/2023 06:51

Happylittlechicken · 24/03/2023 06:45

In total agreement with you. I used to be very #bekind and “live and let live”, but once you see the hypocrisy, misogyny and woman hating nastiness you can’t unseebit. Then you educate yourself more, and find out the true depths.

Agree completely

smileladiesplease · 24/03/2023 07:04

Stop giving them air time they are a tiny minority.

Look what actually happened to sturgeon? Tic Tok snd stupid Twitter nonsence didn't save her sorry arse as it's the majority who actually count.

Kier beware as I have said before. The vast majority of people do not support self ID and can see the safe guarding issues. It's up to all of us women and men to speak up and be counted in work schools and in our voting system.

Be brave.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 24/03/2023 19:43

Stop giving them air time they are a tiny minority

I'm genuinely sitting on my hands to not respond where there is the option to. I (unfortunately Grin) have the sort of personality that needs to have the last word so this is REALLY hard for me. But it doesn't stop it being absolutely infuriating.

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inkjet · 24/03/2023 20:57

I was thinking of making a rant thread so you have made me feel much more sane OP! Thank you. It is so infuriating isn’t it?! I hate the fact that we are painted as bigots or right wing or just don’t understand things when we understand far, far more than they do. These people come out with ludicrous statements and just aren’t challenged on them. I want to follow what’s going on with the debate but every one seems to raise my blood pressure.

What rights did this non-binary person think they didn’t have, by the way?

thebaneofmylifeisacat · 26/03/2023 19:30

You just have to repeat '

you have every right to your view and I have every right to mine. Men are born men snd women women and whatever you do you can't change your sex. You can be trans but you can't completely change your sex.

Only women have periods/pregnancy/give birth/and go through the menopause.

As you were

Ofcourseshecan · 27/03/2023 18:29

Totally with you, OP. The lies, the stupidity, the negligence of people with power to combat this insanity, whether authorities or influencers. The total failure to ask important questions and draw sane conclusions.

One thing I've never seen addressed is: among trans people, why do most males transition as adults, and don't give up their male genitalia or have anything harmful done, just breeze into women's spaces? Whereas most female transitioners are very young and rush straight into having their breasts amputated?

Male gain and female pain. Same old story.

WallaceinAnderland · 27/04/2023 15:30

They have twitter accounts and block anyone who disagrees so they aren't used to thinking and debating. They just all agree with each other and hype each other up.

This is not a movement that can succeed. One by one, the wheels are falling off the juggernaut.

Fimofriend · 27/04/2023 18:12

I find it very disturbing that people are trying to confirm the delusions of body dysmorphia. It is such a dangerous disorder that can cause them to cause themselves serious physical harm. There was a case a long time ago, twenty years or so, I think, where a man felt he had "too many arms" so he got one of his arms amputated. Then he started feeling he had "too many legs". It wasn't until he had his leg amputated too and started disliking his remaining arm as well that the doctors came to the conclusion that it was best not to operate on people with body dysmorphia. At the end of the article, it seemed that there was general agreement about this among doctors.

Now see where we are today! I can't remember whether it was on the Trans Widow Escape Committee threads or on the homepage Trans Widows' Voices I read about the transwoman who did go through a full surgical transition and then regretted and blamed his ex-wife because she "should have stopped him" before he had himself castrated. The poor man! It is horrid that doctors were allowed to do that to him.

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