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jon Snow baby via surrogate

33 replies

orangelotus · 19/03/2023 10:39

I just read the guardian article and felt to sad.
these frankly elderly rich people buying a baby seems so abhorrent to me.
And it's all about them no reference to the woman who actually was pregnant and gave birth -so the mother.
His 48 year wife •deserved " a baby.
How have we got to this?

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ColouringPencils · 20/03/2023 20:24

Ooh I read this in the Guardian and was raging too. In the same issue there was also an interview with Paris Hilton on her baby by surrogate, which I haven't not round to reading yet, but it definitely felt like the Guardian is throwing their support behind the celebrity surrogate babies. Jon was on the front page of the main paper and Paris on the cover of the magazine.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 20/03/2023 21:09

My DF became chronically unwell for much of my childhood, then died while my younger sibs were in their teens. In his case, it was bad luck, not age, but it affected our whole childhoods and young adult lives. And, of course, he missed all our significant adult milestones, never saw his grandchildren etc.

It’s a huge psychological burden for a child, to see your parent declining and dying, when you are still dependent on them. Anyone who intentionally inflicts that on their child is selfish in the extreme.

ArabellaScott · 20/03/2023 21:20

I'm sorry to hear that, MissLucy.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 20/03/2023 21:42

ArabellaScott · 20/03/2023 21:20

I'm sorry to hear that, MissLucy.

Thank you. It was a long time ago and I have come to terms with it, as much as you ever can. At least I did not have to deal with my father having inflicted the burden on me knowingly, as Jon Snow has done to his child. That would be a huge additional burden of pain.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 20/03/2023 22:01

Grim.

I have no tolerance for any of this age-denying-baby-buying bullshit having lost my wonderful mother to cancer in her early 50s.

Hard enough to lose a parent when you are in your 20s, let alone still at school.

Having babies this late pretty much guarantees that your kid will have to experience a serious, life altering, profound bereavement before they reach adulthood.

If you want a baby that much, start trying earlier.
Adoption has limits, and rightly so.

derbylass81 · 21/03/2023 13:25

He always struck me as a very intelligent man.

But that article is contradictory, hypocritical, non-sensical and tone deaf.

Sheer idiocy and selfishness. I'm very surprised. What an old fool.

Catspyjamas17 · 21/03/2023 13:29

Why on earth do people want a child at this stage of life? They are nuts.

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/03/2023 13:33

derbylass81 · 21/03/2023 13:25

He always struck me as a very intelligent man.

But that article is contradictory, hypocritical, non-sensical and tone deaf.

Sheer idiocy and selfishness. I'm very surprised. What an old fool.

I thought of him as intelligent and a good bloke too.

So disappointed.

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