Are there any feminist places that are good, that are more about women?

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I’ve been trying to look feminist sites or otherwise online places that are supportive of women.
But they are hard to find.
Like this place is pretty slow and many/most are just about wives and mothers, I’m looking somewhere women are bit more progressive and support other women.
Who you can talk about life with, through feminist lense or not.
I don’t really care about reading is it feminist or not to take a man’s name or arguments about chores or studies of how much men vs women raise kids, I donmt understand what that has to do with anything.

Does anyone know any sites?
Reddit was pretty bad, Ovarit is horrible and not much happening here…

I don't think you'll find what you're after unless you start those threads yourself as PP have suggested.

There is a spinoff that startup up recently but I don't know how feminist it is.

Do you mean for general chat or for discussing feminist issues specifically?

Why don't you set up your own discussion board? That seems to me the kind of thing a 'progressive feminist' would do.

It seems like you haven't lurked, read or understood the boards here. In which case why would anyone point you to other feminist sites? There were posters sending messages looking for other feminist sites a few weeks back too. Considering how many MRAs and TRAs do lurk on here, why should anyone risk pointing you to other places to sneer at? I know I wouldn't.

I think I get what OP means but can't PM.

many/most are just about wives and mothers, I’m looking somewhere women are bit more progressive

mostly filled with conservitive soccer moms

I don’t care to talk about how women are women because they have babies

More forward and independent thinking

The feminism on Mumsnet may not be of the young, fashionable kind, but it is relevant to the lives of many women - particularly the type of women drawn to a site called 'Mumsnet'. I mean this kindly, as I think I was once very like you, but look at your own internalised misogyny towards the women you have described above. You are describing women using the same dismissive and contemptuous language used by male misogynists.

It sounds like you're looking for a site with a different focus which is more relevant to your life. That's great! I wish I could point you towards one. Maybe start up your own if you can't find one. I'm sure there are loads of women who'd be interested and I'd even head over and join in the odd discussion.

Most women have children though. It's a fundamental part of most women's lives and what's more, having and raising children (and all the uncomfortable and difficult choices that surround that) can often the one main eye-opening thing in a women's life which reveals the patriarchal and sexist society she is part of.

If you find a feminist space where there isn't much discussion of the impact of child rearing on women's lives, then I'd question whether it's really a feminist space.

And to discuss older women's voices as not progressive enough or not the right kind of feminist... Good lord woman listen to yourself.

I thought this might have been a plug for femvox but they all match your description too OP.

I'm still confused as to what you're looking for exactly.

Women are not women because they have babies

They are women because that's their biological role

And if you don't understand that you can't understand feminism because you take away the biological reality and replace it with a "in your head"

Whereupon it's not taking account of women's biology that matters - where there is a real observable difference

It's asking account the "fact" that women's heads are different to men's- where no innate observable difference exists

Your biology affects you weather or not you have children , whatever your sexuality, we all experience things men don't , and your biology will mean that men see you in a certain way which can affect how they treat you , your opportunities in life

Your head affects those things too , but not. In a way that is common across women and different to men

Your biology affects you weather or not you have children , whatever your sexuality, we all experience things men don't , and your biology will mean that men see you in a certain way which can affect how they treat you , your opportunities in life

@midgemadgemodge Excellent post!

I mean feminism focuses on the differences between men and women and how our biology and status (cos of biology) holds women back. Having kids is still a big deal for many feminists because thats the inflection point at which womens lives can change quite drastically. Marriage is only relevant in the sense of division of labour and expectations around women performing gender roles within marriage. I’m not sure if you are also complaining that there aren’t enough Lesbians here. I think there are probably quite a few but they don’t start threads with “Lesbian here…”

If you want to talk about feminism then biological differences and the domino effect of that have to be considered. It has an impact on women without kids and Lesbians as well. How women are treated in the work place, what legal protections are in place for women generally etc. Also Mumsnet is definitely not conservative.

Ooh I do love a drive-by scolding.

Maybe there should be an option when you sign up:

[X] I would like to post a rant then flounce immediately

I'm surprised the OP is looking for a feminist site when they're happy to use sneering, misogynistic terms like "soccer moms".

This group on reddit is pretty decent.

www.reddit.com/r/fourthwavewomen?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

I think that group has been overtaken by men.

Another group femaledatingstrategy has pretty good archives. They have a forum but the format just didn't click with me the way the reddit format does.

You're complaining that a site called 'Mumsnet' is too much about the mumming? And the feminist board is too feminist?

I don't really know what to say, OP.

many/most are just about wives and mothers, I’m looking somewhere women are bit more progressive and support other women.

Very confusing statement. Ok, you think women who are wives and mothers are not progressive. But at the same time you want to support other women? You mean those who are single and not mothers? Are those the only progressive ones then?

Oh this reminds me of last week when I called into my local supermarket and asked them to recommend me a better supermarket, because theirs wasn't good enough. Sorry for mentioning such a mundane housewifey thing op. Maybe if you stick around you can improve this board with posts about interesting women who are not 'just wives and mothers'.

Tell me about your username 🤔

😶

I’m not a mum but I come to mumsnet for my feminism.

Its awesome here.

This isn’t a reply to the OP who has left anyway, and who needs to do a lot more reading and growing up.

it’s to everyone else.

We know, motherhood is fundamental to feminism, fundamental to life.
It’s fresh, it’s vital, it’s real. It’s not a limitation.

I know a lot more now than I did in my 20s. Still a lot to learn.

What exactly does ‘soccer mom’ mean? I assume it’s not just a mum who’s interested in football.

I’m a childfree-by-choice lesbian who can’t stand football & FWR is my Mumsnet home. The trouble with online women’s spaces is that it’s impossible to keep the men out unless you go underground. Sall Grover’s tried to do it in Australia & some git’s suing her because she won’t let him in.

What exactly does ‘soccer mom’ mean?
It's a pejorative US term for a mum who spends her weekends driving her kids round for their hobbies like soccer (in the US primarily a girls' sport). So basically a woman who makes sure her (female) children access sport and exercise.

It's a misogynist stable mate of Karen, wine-mom, 'can I speak to the manager', Milf, cougar etc. Women who have the temerity to be past their prime but not yet invisible. They bigotedly appear in public. They cheer on their children with their strident voices. They own cars. They are THE WORST.