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Anybody watching Lucy Worsley investigating witch hunts in Scotland?
comfyoldcardi · 21/01/2023 20:06
I find her very interesting and I am just settling down to watch this.
Nimbostratus100 · 21/01/2023 20:07
seen it before - utterly horrifying - and not one of them has ever been officially pardoned
MrsMitford3 · 21/01/2023 20:15
I am def Lucy Worsley fangirl-am watching.
Her Wives of Henry 8th was brilliant
tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 21/01/2023 20:18
Evening folks
Can I ask, where are you watching this?
pristinesurfacesGBTD · 21/01/2023 20:19
tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 21/01/2023 20:18
Evening folks
Can I ask, where are you watching this?
Bbc2
Baldieheid · 21/01/2023 20:22
Scotland, particularly the Lothians and Fife, has a horrific history re witchhunting. We forget that people truly believed in the devil at that time, and believed that they were cursed. Its no excuse for state sanctioned murder, it just helps explain how it happened.
MrsMitford3 · 21/01/2023 20:23
Lucy just mentioned that all of the hundreds of women convicted of being witches would have been illiterate so leave no testimony/defence.
DD doing a feminist history Masters which looks at this very thing-history is written by men-how do we find the women's voices. I want to do all the courses she is doing!!
But have learned so much and can see the lack of the women's version of the story in this means we are only ever hearing part of the history
comfyoldcardi · 21/01/2023 20:27
I am reading the Outlander books atm. I know they are set much later, but I guess Diana Gabaldon must have read all this history! Fascinating stuff.
lipstickwoman · 21/01/2023 20:32
I think it's been on before.. however it's both interesting and upsetting. The absolute cruelty, the horror of it stayed with me for a few days.
Baldieheid · 21/01/2023 20:36
I drive past Lilias Adie's watery grave every day on my way to work. Buried between high and low tide lines, under a huge flat slab of rock, just in case you could come back. Poor auld soul was probably tortured,. She died before actually standing trial in Culross, if I remember correctly.
ozymandiusking · 21/01/2023 20:39
Excellent programme, and so is Lucy. I think everything she does is good.
inigomontoyahwillcox · 22/01/2023 14:32
It was very moving. I've watched it before but had to watch again when I saw it was on. Has kind of sent me down a witch rabbit hole.
I live in Essex, which was somewhat of a hotbed of witch "activity", hunting, trials and executions in the C16th, although it seems this conclusion is drawn due to the relative abundance of written material in Essex relating to them that survived.
I understand that there is a campaign in Scotland for a more prominent monument dedicated to the witches, and an official pardon to be granted, but I can't find anything similar relating to English witches?
ArcaneWireless · 22/01/2023 17:25
I have see this series before.
Heartbreaking. Tragic. Upsetting.
And a pardon will not be forthcoming from Scotland because they don’t care about women.
Not the ones wronged in the past.
Not the ones wronged in the present.
Nor the ones who will be wronged in the future.
Those poor women.
MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 22/01/2023 17:38
lipstickwoman · 21/01/2023 20:32
I think it's been on before.. however it's both interesting and upsetting. The absolute cruelty, the horror of it stayed with me for a few days.
Yes, me too, I almost wish I hadn't watched it but so glad I did ifykwim.
I also loved her wooly hat, anyone know where it from? How shallow!
MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 22/01/2023 17:39
ArcaneWireless · 22/01/2023 17:25
I have see this series before.
Heartbreaking. Tragic. Upsetting.
And a pardon will not be forthcoming from Scotland because they don’t care about women.
Not the ones wronged in the past.
Not the ones wronged in the present.
Nor the ones who will be wronged in the future.
Those poor women.
That sums it up well.
inigomontoyahwillcox · 22/01/2023 17:56
I agree @ArcaneWireless - well put.
Would an English campaign be more successful, I wonder.
ArcaneWireless · 22/01/2023 18:08
Ye can only hope Toyah
Sadly we are stuck with the new Witchfinder General for now.
Near me. (Not my photo)
inigomontoyahwillcox · 22/01/2023 18:14
Jesus, that's horrific - the depravity of humans never ceases to shock me...then and now.
StillWeRise · 22/01/2023 18:17
MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 22/01/2023 17:38
Yes, me too, I almost wish I hadn't watched it but so glad I did ifykwim.
I also loved her wooly hat, anyone know where it from? How shallow!
lipstickwoman · 21/01/2023 20:32
I think it's been on before.. however it's both interesting and upsetting. The absolute cruelty, the horror of it stayed with me for a few days.
another one here who rewatched it
a very nice bag too
actually I generally like her clothes!
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