Suicide and domestic abuse

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Channel 4 news tonight. According to the professor researching this, the figure could be up to 10 deaths of women per week due to domestic abuse, once suicide is included. Personally I am not surprised.

There are 9 ayicides a week in women? Jesus

I'm confused. I thought there were 2-3 deaths of women per week due to DV.

So the 6-7 more due to suicide?

Or he's saying there are about 8 per week due to DV plus one from suicide?

I'm not surprised that there are some from suicide. Personally the only reason I'm alive is because I cannot leave my DC to grow up with the man who has broken me mentally to the point my physical health has been seriously impacted from the stress. He's never laid a finger on me.

I'm not sure how data on suicide due to DV can be accurately collected though.

@aweegc I totally get what you mean. It's a bleak existence when they have broken you and you no longer trust any choice or decision you make. Children, and the thought of leaving them to be unprotected from "him" probably is the only reason most of us are here.
People have no idea what's been done to legal aid during covid and how there's so little help. Having to relive everything just to get a solicitor to try to protect you. Absolutely everything favours the man.
The shit show that is Child Maintenance. How as an unmarried mother you have no rights whatsoever. Its only a matter of time before workhouses are back.
All we can do is educate our daughters and pray they don't repeat our mistakes or at least get dealt a better hand.
Domestic abuse is rife and its not in men's interest to try to change things.

I am not surprised either. My xh still tries to access me for his own abusive needs as much as possible.

I think the 2 or 3 are women murdered. There will be additional deaths where the injuries and abuse were a decisive factor in a woman's premature death but the cause of death would be listed as (for example) heart failure. I wonder if the 10 also includes deaths like these.

But suicide stats seem to be around 28 women a week so actually totally plausible - hell what a thought

Just to clarify:
The 2 to 3 deaths per week are the murders that we already know about and are often quoted.
The Professor interviewed on the news programme stated that the suicides of women who suffer so much domestic abuse that they cannot see any other way out but to kill themselves, bump that figure up to 10 deaths a week. So, about 7 suicides a week as a result of domestic abuse.
I am sorry I thought I had written it reasonably clearly.

Sorry if I added confusion op but having looked it up I was shocked at how many women did commit suicide each week in the UK. That 7/28 or 25% are strongly linked with dv seems really plausible to me whilst simultaneously being a bit mind blowing.

I’m currently in what I’ve now learned is an emotional and financial abusive relationship, have been for 5 years. I can understand the suicide rates. It’s truly a living hell

This really needs promoting.

DominoBlue absolutely. We are all aware that entire system is generally set up to favour men and women are therefore disadvantaged. But what's not discussed is that it disadvantages women proportionate to the a) amount of help the actually need and b) the amount of pain they're in due to someone else.

Sorry for everybody else who has "lived experience". Funny how little that term seems to matter when it's women...

Unfortunately this board gets very little traffic since the forced split. I hesitated to post here because I am aware of that issue. It is difficult.

I've been doing some reading. Seems the link is well known.

The U.K.
www.theguardian.com/society/2022/feb/27/suicide-by-domestic-violence-call-to-count-the-hidden-toll-of-womens-lives

Older article with some good info although questionable terms
leb.fbi.gov/articles/featured-articles/intimate-partner-violence-a-pathway-to-suicide

www.apa.org/monitor/2014/11/suicide-violence

A correlation between incidents of domestic violence and number of suicide amongst women in inpatient psychiatric care.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24937563/

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/24/fatal-truth-how-the-suicide-of-alex-reid-exposed-the-hidden-death-toll-of-domestic-violence

There's actually quite a lot out there about this. I'd never looked and never thought about it.

I am going to hypothesise that the suicidal ideation (not going through with it) amongst women who have experienced domestic abuse is going to be extremely high...

I am going to hypothesise that the suicidal ideation (not going through with it) amongst women who have experienced domestic abuse is going to be extremely high...

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My child died because of my then husband's actions, so I didn't have them to live for, but I knew the effect it would have on my family so couldn't go through with it. There will be so many who have never spoken of this to anyone, I agree, the figures will be very high.

I have so much to say about this but it doesn't feel safe. I can't name change but I will seek some real world support. I have met a few men who say they lost their wives to mental health it makes me shiver. They always seem to be seeking sympathy and expecting applause for being alone with the children. Frequently they drive them out or right down.

I can't say more than that but I will do what I can to promote this issue professionally.

There used to be stats online published by a DV charity but they've been taken down. The rate of attempted suicide among women is much higher than the completed rate. About 8 women attempt suicide as a result of DV every day. The majority make an attempt within 24 hours of an episode of violence - they were included in the stats if they made an attempt within 6 months of an episode of violence that resulted in them going to A&E.

DV costs the UK billions of pounds every year; the economic costs include time taken off work, the cost of A&E and mental health support, the money women have to spend moving house and hiding. Its an absolute crisis both socially and economically, the situation is not improving, but support for women and children is being decimated.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-economic-and-social-costs-of-domestic-abuse

The suicidal ideation must be through the roof.
I know personally after a bad day where I’ve been called all the names under the sun I’ve often thought wouldnt it just be easier to do it. But I know I never would. Its so heartbreaking the world we live in, how it’s become so normalised for males to abuse and treat their partners so bad that they don’t even want to be alive anymore.