Struggle snuggle

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The language used here is just appalling. That poor 15 year old girl that was restrained. Did the police officer use this as an opportunity to sexual assault her?

The conversations are here www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/wayne-couzens-met-police-whatsapp-b2133121.html?r=96503

How widespread is this? Both in the met and with men in general?

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With men in general I think its widespread, and its got worse since Reddit, PUA's and online porn. You might not be able to see it as a lot of it is confined to private chats, but you can certainly see the end results - just listen to women talk about the dating scene.

We really need to stop with this fantasy belief that male officers re any different to any other man. That they contain the same mix of good and bad as any other group. In fact its probably more representative if the bad guys as its a profession that lends itself to close contact and power over others so will attract many with ulterior motives.

It would be nice if that wasn't the case but we have seen too many times jusy what happens.in.secret behind the scenes.

That poor 15 year old. What are we supposed to tell.out kids. We always used to tell them to find a police officer if they were ever in trouble.

Now we have to protect them from the police

They are not denying they sent the texts just they don’t think they aren’t “grossly offensive”. They are just banter - I really hate that word - and honest coppers letting off steam.

I really think some men can’t see how damaging talking like that is, even if for 9/10 in the chat it is all talk there is the 1/10 that takes it as a green light for their actions.

I’d never heard it before today and was appalled. My 18yo has just informed me that the expression has been around for years and was originally a Jimmy Carr joke. I don’t have words for how disgusted I am 😞

This makes me so bloody worried to have 2 daughters. "Struggle snuggles"? Beyond vile.

I wonder if these men have girlfriends/wives/daughters/sisters they think about when they talk about women like this.

I don't have many male friends, more acquaintances through DH. From what I've seen of their chats, they are nothing like this. If I found out my DH thought this was just "banter" I'd no longer be with him.

They would go beserk if some one spoke about the beloved females in their life in this way .

I think men like this have a whore / angel complex when it comes to women . By classing a woman as a whore or below them socially , in their minds it justifies their words , thoughts and actions .

I don't have many male friends, more acquaintances through DH. From what I've seen of their chats, they are nothing like this. If I found out my DH thought this was just "banter" I'd no longer be with him

When you get a group of men together minus their spouses and get a few drinks down them you would be surprised what they can come out with. Even the ones who don't " participate " still don't correct anyone and don't seem to object to it being believed to be true.

Its somewhat depressing

I can't think about it too long without wanting to cry or vomit