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Time to start US financial sanctions - abortion

23 replies

PlopPlop · 25/06/2022 21:29

I am utterly appalled what has happened in the US.

If any of those supreme judges have any money in the uk we need to lock them out of it. They can’t profit from us.

I really think we should be putting financial sanctions on all these “law makers” in America that want to take away a woman's reproductive and therefore their human rights.

I am disgusted, appalled and fucking sad. Give it 2 years and this will be our country too if we don’t take action.

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PlopPlop · 25/06/2022 21:48

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OneEyedPenguin · 25/06/2022 22:04

And what about all the other countries that have done the same/similar? We can't sanction them all.

PeekAtYou · 25/06/2022 22:07

We depend on areas of the world where human rights never mind womens rights are poorer than the UK.

PlopPlop · 25/06/2022 22:10

A country that has a large influence on our culture we must prioritise them on the top of the sanction list. It will be less than 2 years that this kind of anti women legislation being called for in parliament. And I am not exaggerating or scaremongering.

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ellieboolou · 25/06/2022 22:35

I think it's disgraceful what America has done. Our rights are being taken away, having 2 daughters I fear for their future and I think we are slowly being silenced.

NumberTheory · 26/06/2022 06:54

We should sanction the US for removing the constitutional right to abortion when the UK doesn't provide a constitutional right to abortion?

Did you know that because there is no constitutional right to abortion here, women in NI had pretty much no access until 2 years ago? That because there is no right to abortion in the UK, Scotland and NI could both ban abortion if they wanted to? That to get a legal abortion, women in England and Wales have to get two doctors to agree they deserve one?

Are you sure we should be calling for sanctions on the US and not focusing activism closer to home to get women better and more secure access in the UK?

RosaGallica · 26/06/2022 10:43

It would be nice if America had less influence on our culture and politicians. And also nice if I had fairies at the bottom of my garden. I can’t see anything happening particularly while the U.K. is begging for trade deals post-Brexit, and it can afford to ignore us at the best of times.

I came across this open protest letter if it’s of any help. bpas-campaigns.org/campaigns/roe-v-wade/#take-action-now

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 10:46

PlopPlop · 25/06/2022 21:29

I am utterly appalled what has happened in the US.

If any of those supreme judges have any money in the uk we need to lock them out of it. They can’t profit from us.

I really think we should be putting financial sanctions on all these “law makers” in America that want to take away a woman's reproductive and therefore their human rights.

I am disgusted, appalled and fucking sad. Give it 2 years and this will be our country too if we don’t take action.

Sanctions for interpreting the US constitution in a different way to how you do?

No, that’s silly.

BlairAtholl · 26/06/2022 10:48

Totally agree with NumberTheory the lack of knowledge about what happens (or rather doesn't) within the UK is shocking.
The situation in the USA is awful but let's not pretend we have some moral high ground here!

Summerwetordry · 26/06/2022 11:01

We cannot compare attitudes in the US to here. I have a large number of family members there and every one is totally opposed to abortion. They are celebrating the decision. There's a lot of states where religion rules people's lives.

My mother was a midwife in England who had to watch women die from home abortions. Even before abortion became legal, many gynaecologists performed a D&C for "period irregularities". We have always been more enlightened here and, mostly, don't have overwhelming anti-abortion religious zealots.

MrsGluck · 26/06/2022 11:07

Yes, what's happening there is dire, but financial sanctions by the UK would not make any difference to the ability of women in the US to access abortions.

NumberTheory · 26/06/2022 16:37

@Summerwetordry
We have always been more enlightened here and, mostly, don't have overwhelming anti-abortion religious zealots

The position in NI was driven by religious belief and abortion only became available there because Westminster slipped it in while they were fighting too much to govern. They haven't implemented provision on the NHS properly and women still have to travel to England after week 10. Legal status there is at risk and there has already been an attempt to restrict the current law.

When I was pregnant in England 30 years ago, under the more generous law that we had then, I had to shop around to find somewhere I could get an abortion as in my initial area the doctors didn't think my reasons were good enough. Where I live in the US I can get an abortion, without having to have my reasons approved, until ~ week 23.

There isn't the same rhetoric in the UK, but there are certainly the same anti-choice zealots who attempt to remove this option from women.

SerendipityJane · 26/06/2022 18:27

Best sancation is to not travel to the US. Don't spend your money there and more inportantly don't end up trapped in a country that crimnalises reproductive autonomy.
Now the state has regained control of womens bodies, I can see access to contraception being the next battleground. Imagine being jailed because Texas state officials found the pill in your luggage ? Or because you discussed contraception (i.e "aided a criminal offence" ) in a bar ?

TullyApplebottom · 26/06/2022 18:28

PlopPlop · 25/06/2022 22:10

A country that has a large influence on our culture we must prioritise them on the top of the sanction list. It will be less than 2 years that this kind of anti women legislation being called for in parliament. And I am not exaggerating or scaremongering.

That’s precisely what you are doing

Hotcuppatea · 26/06/2022 18:29

I am 100% pro choice, but you need to get a grip.

Cameleongirl · 26/06/2022 18:33

No. I’m British living in the US and that’s not the right approach. Many people here are opposed to the Supreme Court decision and we’ll voice our opposition here. Each state can make its own decision on whether to follow the ruling -the state I live in won’t be, in fact, as of July 1, our state legislature is making additional money available for these services. We’re fully expecting women from other states to come here asking for help, which will be provided.

user1477391263 · 27/06/2022 05:23

The US hasn't banned abortion as such. It has returned the decision to the states themselves.
Most states will continue to have legal abortion.

Ravenclawdropout · 27/06/2022 05:33

I think you may want to think of the repercussions for the UK. The USA is the biggest economy in the world which is about 7.5 x bigger than the UK. Sanctions would come back to bite the UK much worse if American banks and companies stopped investing in the UK.

TullyApplebottom · 27/06/2022 06:38

The number of left wing commentators cracking on about how this is about to happen too under the evil Tories is shocking. Irresponsible and dishonest, and alarmist.
I don’t know why these people think importing US culture wars here will do them any favours. It won’t.

SerendipityJane · 27/06/2022 07:40

Period tracking apps become targets post-SCOTUS decision


www.theregister.com/2022/06/24/big_tech_post_roe_wade/

Under a law passed last year in Texas, any citizen who successfully sues an abortion provider, a health center worker, or anyone who helps someone access an abortion after six weeks can claim at least $10,000, and other US states are following that example.

"We are just a few steps away from digital dragnets for people who are providing access and possibly for people seeking abortions," EFF Director of Cybersecurity Eva Galperin told The Register.

Panamii · 27/06/2022 08:14

Erm the U.K. economy is holding on by a thread. The U.K. isn't in a powerful enough position to be running around thinking they can police the US. I don't agree with the SCOTUS ruling but it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the political relationship to think the U.K. could even make a dent in the US economy...it would be rather silly posturing.

Rosehugger · 27/06/2022 10:17

For states that ban abortion:

No reproductive rights, no freely available contraception = no sex. Go fuck yourself, as no fucks will be given around here.

Adelishious · 10/07/2022 22:07

I disagree. I think they should be given awards, i for one was overjoyed when I heard the leak of the courts plans.

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