Is the world actually fair on men.

[Bella3456]

A very interesting one here and I'm intrigued to hear peoples thoughts. This is to do with abuse. A very long time ago I had social services involved (they are long gone now) me and partner had a physical altercation (lots more to it but will leave it at that) because of having a child social services got involved and I explained that it was both of us (hes long gone by the way) and instantly they were telling me how terrible he was.....but not how terrible I was i found it really strange. However I have a 6 year old boy and I must admit if he hit a woman I'd go absolutely ballistic and march him straight to therapy. When I defended my ex partner again saying it too was my fault no one believed me. I honestly could do no wrong and I just found the whole thing really odd. It does turn out that he ended up being incredibly emotionally and physically abusive in the end and social services said I was only 'reacting to my surroundings' which I actually believe to be true. I also believe that men being violent towards women can cause women a lot more damage because biologically they are much stronger. However if a woman was repeatedly attacking my son let's say when he's older for example constantly punching him and he hits her back i would be RAGING. But why is this? I do feel like its because men are naturally stronger so its not a 'fair fight' but also I feel like almost everyone is quick to not blame a woman and blame it all on the man. Interesting one to debate. Also want to stress I believe violence is wrong....no matter man or woman. But personally I believe man on woman violence is worse because the woman is at so much more risk due to how much stronger men are (normally). What's everyone's thoughts?

[Clymene]

That chopped off the end of my message. It was supposed to say that what your example demonstrates is how very few men are prepared to look after their own children to support their female partner's career.

[BigFatLiar]

@Clymene

@BigFatLiar

No one says life is fair.

I think from my experience work often expects more from men. We had a PM who applied and got a job managing international projects, it did say a key part was travel at short notice. Turned out she expected her male deputy to do the short notice travel as she had family, so had he but that didn't count. When he complained he was basically told to suck it up.
Similar when travel or moving was mentioned it tended to be the men moved as the women had family to sort, no reference to the men having family.
I was fortunate in that OH was happy to look after the kids if I had to do any travel.

Or alternatively very few women are married to men who are prepared to support their careers.

I think the difference is not that the husbands don't support their wife's career as much as businesses assume that womens home life is more important.

[Jonny1265]

@Ohsugarhoneyicetea

All men benefit from men holding the majority of positions of power in the world. So yes, all men.

This is one huge leap. I don't see how all men benefit at all.

[Jonny1265]

@Ohsugarhoneyicetea

@Felix125 You have missed the point entirely unsurprisingly. Society is shaped and controlled by those who have the most power, whether that be political or financial. Those people look out for their own, shape policy to suit themselves, shape culture to suit themselves. Almost all those people are men, which is why society is structured to prioritise and suit men and their lives and their concerns. I do appreciate it is difficult for the privileged, entitled and dull of wit to comprehend their advantages.

My observation is that looking after their own is based on socio-economic factors rather than gender.

[Felix125]

I agree - either socio-economic factors or personal factors to an individual.
Its not just down to gender