Male violence at anti male violence rally in Manchester

baddaytoquitsmoking · 2022-03-15T21:08:39+00:00

Here's my write up of the events at the IWD march last Saturday in Manchester from my perspective as a present representitive of Northern RadFem Network. Pretty unbelievable that it's come to this AGAIN [[https://www.northernradfemnetwork.org/iwd-walking-vigil-against-violence-against-women-girls-12th-march-2022/]]

Redshoeblueshoe · 15/03/2022 22:06

That's an excellent article. There's already a thread about this, so you might want to repost it on there. I don't understand how the person was only given a caution when it's not their first offence. Maybe a few more people need to complain to Salford University

Rhannion · 15/03/2022 22:10

That’s a great article, thank you

ScreamingMeMe · 17/03/2022 08:23

I am so sorry this happened and hope that you are all ok now. I can't believe how succinctly they proved your point.

Monitaurus · 26/03/2022 10:23

And recent protests about sex protected women only spaces meeting by WPUK also in Manchester. See other thread

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baddaytoquitsmoking · 26/03/2022 15:00

Yeh I was there too. They're really going for it in Manchester. GMP are gonna have fun picking apart the policies they're bound by to protect them

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Saltyquiche · 31/03/2022 21:21

Any feedback from Salford uni? Or the police?

UsernameNotAvailableHmm · 01/04/2022 19:35

Thank you for the link to the article OP
It made for a very poignant read
Despicable behaviour from Dawson
How scary and also how enlightening his behaviour to those who witnessed his vile abuse
Maybe Salford Uni haven't replied due to being ashamed of this particular student
I am full of admiration for those of you on these marches

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baddaytoquitsmoking · 06/04/2022 16:04

Interesting response from the police that i unfortunately can't comment on, and the uni have pulled ranks around him. He's not as untouchable as he seems to think tho

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SiobhanSharpe · 06/04/2022 16:05

Any link to the response?

Rightsraptor · 15/04/2022 03:50

Salford uni have no business closing ranks around him.

If he's a nursing student, he's bring the profession into disrepute. Who needs a nurse who has a record of assault? I'm not sure he'll be allowed to register with the Nursing and Midwifery Council on qualifying. If he gets that far, that is.

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baddaytoquitsmoking · 17/04/2022 09:20

He's not getting charged cause he agreed to write a letter of apology, of which I'm sure every word was dripping with sincerity.

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DomesticatedZombie · 17/04/2022 15:19

I would not want to be treated by this nurse.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 17/04/2022 16:08

@baddaytoquitsmoking

He's not getting charged cause he agreed to write a letter of apology, of which I'm sure every word was dripping with sincerity.

I can see how women are repeatedly punished by universities even when they're staff to the point of losing their jobs.

How odd that I don't readily recollect men receiving reprimands (except people like Jonny Best), even when they're photographed with firearms and threatening violence.

I' sure there's a phrase that covers this. Something about the existence of more than one set of standards.

greasyshoes · 22/04/2022 00:45

Misleading title. Your title here suggests that your demonstration was interrupted by men who have a problem with your message on male violence, but clearly, it was interrupted by a transgender woman who has an issue with your stance on transgender people.

Writing "which was somewhat baffling and irrelevant as our assembled contingent were present to neither discuss nor draw attention to transgender politics" is disingenuous. You have a website where you broadcast your opinions. So clearly, transgender people have taken note of your opinions and decided to interrupt your demonstration.

All I'm saying is, is take up your problems with the right people. If transgender people ruined your demonstration, then point the finger at transgender people. To say "men" ruined your demonstration is sorely misleading.

NumberTheory · 22/04/2022 01:23

greasyshoes · 22/04/2022 00:45

Misleading title. Your title here suggests that your demonstration was interrupted by men who have a problem with your message on male violence, but clearly, it was interrupted by a transgender woman who has an issue with your stance on transgender people.

Writing "which was somewhat baffling and irrelevant as our assembled contingent were present to neither discuss nor draw attention to transgender politics" is disingenuous. You have a website where you broadcast your opinions. So clearly, transgender people have taken note of your opinions and decided to interrupt your demonstration.

All I'm saying is, is take up your problems with the right people. If transgender people ruined your demonstration, then point the finger at transgender people. To say "men" ruined your demonstration is sorely misleading.

Saying "men" ruined the demonstration was accurate and also highlighted the way in which the TWAW mantra fails to acknowledge the way trasnwomen's behaviour mirrors male behaviour in relation to their interactions with women when they aren't getting what they want. Which is the issue with male violence against women and girls encapsulated.

MargaritaPie · 22/04/2022 01:58

If I understand correctly, it appears to be a conflict between transpeople/trans-allies and gender-criticals?

NumberTheory · 22/04/2022 06:36

MargaritaPie · 22/04/2022 01:58

If I understand correctly, it appears to be a conflict between transpeople/trans-allies and gender-criticals?

Are you contending that the motivation for this instance of male violence against women and girls means that it's somehow different from other instances of male violence against women and girls?

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baddaytoquitsmoking · 22/04/2022 06:50

I said what I said.

It was accurate.

I'm not arguing clown world semantics with male violence apologists, whatever guise they come in.

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BenCooperisaGod · 22/04/2022 07:40

This is clearly a case of special womanly male violence. Looks the same as male violence, sounds the same, i am very sure feels the same, but if performed in a dress is somehow different.

Did i get that right MPie?

greasyshoes · 22/04/2022 20:03

I'm not arguing clown world semantics with male violence apologists, whatever guise they come in.

Calling me a "male violence apologist" is incorrect, which shows you completely failed to understand my post. I made my point clear and easy to understand, but somehow, it still went flying over the top of your head.

Absurdle · 22/04/2022 20:21

Calling me a "male violence apologist" is incorrect, which shows you completely failed to understand my post

Can’t believe people don’t get this! You are a transwoman violence apologist. That’s completely different!

aweegc · 22/04/2022 20:46

If I understand correctly, it appears to be a conflict between transpeople/trans-allies and gender-criticals?

Disingenuous BS that implicitly victim blames by reframing the issue into something it wasn't.

A group of women on International Women's Day, not bothering to centre the trans issue in their protest but women and girls, are attacked. And it becomes a "GC/trans" issue? Riiiiiight.

A woman ended up in hospital after being attacked twice on a peaceful protest by someone who you think took issue with something she wasn't actually marching about, and your concern is about applying labels? How about focussing on the only victim? Of does it suddenly not matter that a woman was injured if you apply a "gender-critical" label to her?

Come on.

aweegc · 22/04/2022 20:54

How does it come about that a person conducts a completely unprovoked physical attack - twice - in broad daylight, with witnesses, gets arrested but then not charged as they'll write an apology letter?

Does the victim have to agree to this? Is the victim notified that a letter is an option? Does the attacker have to detail exactly what their actions were? Are they allowed to say things like "Any upset that may have been caused was unintentional"?

But really, how can a serial attacker (as this person attacked a woman unprovoked before) be given a letter writing task for physical injury. It's not like this person didn't know what they were doing.

I absolutely do not understand.

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baddaytoquitsmoking · 23/04/2022 07:01

It's a combination of the staggering ineptitude of GMP when it comes to women's safety, and the magical get out of jail T card.

That's literally what it boils down to.

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greasyshoes · 23/04/2022 23:32

and the magical get out of jail T card.

Literally no one here made any excuses for the transwoman's assault. I said you have a website where you broadcast your opinions on transgender women, and you were attacked by a transgender woman who must have read your website. Therefore, your beef is with transgender women specifically on this issue.

Whether or not you think transgender people are in a "clown world" is irrelevant. There are many ideologies which I believe belong in a "clown world", but that doesn't change the fact that those ideologies and their adherents exist.