Feminism: chat
NarcissasMumintheDoghouse · 01/05/2022 18:57
When my girls were coming up in the 1990s I was appalled that W H Smith, clothing lines, stationery etc were all usingbthe Playboy logo. I saw it as a kind of grooming to make a fetish acceptable and couldn't understand why it was being pushed along with Care Bears and the like.
Mandodari · 02/05/2022 14:19
@NarcissasMumintheDoghouse
In the early 2000s, I worked in an industry that dealt with merchandising/licensing/franchises . Playboys name came up and I asked if they were really something we wanted to be associated with. I was accused of being a prude, and if course, being jealous of the women they 'employed'. That was the era where we were being told that porn was empowering and by making it more main stream we were making it a safer industry. What an absolute crock.
user75 · 02/05/2022 15:01
Idolised? I grew up in the 90s and felt incredibly sorry for Anna Nicole and Pamela Anderson - clearly smart women being groomed and abused. I wrote to lots of shops and complained about marketing PB pencil cases etc to kids and discussed it with friends regularly. It was obviously abusive to me and I remember being disgusted with Leonardo DC etc and other young actors who obviously used the 'mansion' as a free brothel.
TheSandgroper · 03/05/2022 12:57
Ten years ago I went into a toy shop in rural Western Australia and discovered Playboy videos mixed with the Barbie and Thomas Tank videos.
I thought that was very much grooming in process. I did ask about it at the cash register on our way out but the woman (who was about my age) couldn’t give me much of an answer.
Trytobetoo · 04/05/2022 13:46
@tuliplover & @user75
Genuinely idolised, yes. It’s very warped when I look back now, I grew up in a somewhat liberal household where crushes and the like were often discussed openly by my parent, my dad would have posters up in his work van of page 3 women and pammy, barb wire among the family video set, no sexual adoration was really hidden, my own husband who is 19 years my senior also often tells me of his love and adoration of Pamela Anderson back in the 90s and how it was the norm for many men and women (were very working class, off for a pint after work kind back then) which has since bred crippling anxiety and self esteem issues over my body and looks, I always took it very personally for some reason that that is how I should look too.
user75 · 04/05/2022 13:55
@Trytobetoo I also grew up in a very working class family but my parents views were formed in part by the exploitation and abuse of women they saw happen when they were part of the hippy movement, all under the guise of 'free love'. DM told me the drugs were used to break down women's boundaries and the 'philosophy' of freedom was used by abusive men to prey on women. It happens in so many environments to so many women. I am sorry these issues have effected your mental health and self esteem. Pamela Anderson has suffered terribly with her mental health over the years. These men have so much to answer for.
zafferana · 07/05/2022 10:23
I watched it - it was horrendous - just revelation after revelation about the drugging, raping and humiliation of women, often enabled by other women (a few of whom feature in the 10-part documentary).
I can't say I've ever given Playboy a great deal of thought, but I did see some of 'The Girls Next Door' and Hugh Hefner was portrayed in that show as a kindly, grandfatherly figure, which when you know the truth about him, is disgraceful.
The more revelations that come out about the entertainment industry, particularly in the 70s, 80s and 90s the worse it is. The entire industry was built on the abuse of women.
Kat1953 · 07/05/2022 10:31
zafferana · 07/05/2022 10:23
I watched it - it was horrendous - just revelation after revelation about the drugging, raping and humiliation of women, often enabled by other women (a few of whom feature in the 10-part documentary).
I can't say I've ever given Playboy a great deal of thought, but I did see some of 'The Girls Next Door' and Hugh Hefner was portrayed in that show as a kindly, grandfatherly figure, which when you know the truth about him, is disgraceful.
The more revelations that come out about the entertainment industry, particularly in the 70s, 80s and 90s the worse it is. The entire industry was built on the abuse of women.
I've always thought this stuff went on and been waiting for it to come out. Never understood the celebrity of playboy either, it was obvious what sort of sick place it was
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