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A couple of bits of good news in the Police, Crime and Sentencing bill

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ErrolTheDragon · 04/01/2022 18:07

Spotted this on the bbc website. The amendment to the bill to give victims of domestic abuse more time to report crimes to police is particularly good news I think.

Taking pictures of breastfeeding mothers in public to be made illegal in England and Wales www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59871075

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Slothtoes · 05/01/2022 23:21

I saw that too and was impressed that they are doing something about that. Excellent.

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llansannan11 · 06/01/2022 19:19

A welcome step I think.

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FindingMeno · 06/01/2022 19:21

I was hoping the good news was that the Met is being disbanded.

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ShowOfHands · 06/01/2022 19:24

DH is a police officer and says they're good in theory but he says that in practice, he is concerned that post 6 months, there is rarely evidence and therefore few positive outcomes and proving intent behind taking of photos is nearly impossible. He doesn't know that any of it will translate into positive results as the changes don't go far enough.

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MargaritaPie · 10/01/2022 20:37

What if someone takes a photo of a tourist attraction and amongst the crowd of people near it there is a breastfeeding mother which the photographer didn't notice?

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SantaClawsServiette · 10/01/2022 20:57

The brestfeeding one strikes me as maybe not clearly great? While I appreciate that many people might prefer not to have it done, I've always felt that normalization of bf in public can't happen when it's seen as basically private. I always remember seeing in a news article a picture of Hugo Chavez talking to a woman bfing her baby, quite openly, in a crowd of people in a public area.

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ErrolTheDragon · 10/01/2022 22:15

It seems to be aimed at people photographing deliberately without consent. Do you think that's ok?

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SantaClawsServiette · 11/01/2022 18:45

@ErrolTheDragon

It seems to be aimed at people photographing deliberately without consent. Do you think that's ok?

To me I'd think the law around photographing someone breastfeeding in a public place would be the same as anyone else in public. Which I believe is that you can generally do so, but maybe in some cases need permission to publish such photos? Although you can get into harassment type behavior too.

But if it's treated differently it seems to bring up a contradiction, is it a suitable public activity, or not?
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catzwhiskas · 12/01/2022 01:06

At least the problem of males in women’s prisons was raised again. Serious bewilderment at the supposedly educated who appear to see no problem with it.

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Willowkins · 18/01/2022 03:10

And in the House of Lords yesterday, they voted to make mysogyny a hate crime. More info here:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60032465
Now it goes back to the House of Commons.

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sashh · 18/01/2022 04:15

@MargaritaPie

What if someone takes a photo of a tourist attraction and amongst the crowd of people near it there is a breastfeeding mother which the photographer didn't notice?

Then they are not actually photographing the bf mother.

It's a bit like if you are at a beach and take a photo of your own child and there is another child in the background, that's OK, going up to the strange child and taking a close up would not be OK (I think technically legal but the parents may have questions).
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