Shocking case of young woman who gave birth in prison - BBC radio 4 Today

[FannyCann]

The tragic and truly disgraceful case of an 18 year old who gave birth in prison, unattended (the baby sadly died) was discussed on the Today programme in the last slot before 8am this morning. About the last ten minutes. There was discussion about the lack of care of pregnant women in prison and why they should not be in prison at all except perhaps in the most extreme circumstances. This young woman hadn't even been convicted - she was on remand.

Sorry, I can't link, perhaps because the programme is still live and I'm on my phone.

I'm at work so can't contribute much but I wanted to flag it up and recommend going to BBC sounds to listen. The details and discussion are appalling, the treatment of pregnant women in prison generally shocking.

[OhHolyJesus]

A curiously defensive interview in which it seemed that no disciplinary action had been taken.

I don't disagree, I did hear some frustration in Sue McAllister's voice though as she said she had used the word 'toothless' to refer to herself/her role. She has clearly been considering statutory powers and lack thereof in her role.

It doesn't take away from the lack of action taken, ownership and accountability but I could hear her frustration and as you say cats I bet it's the tip of the iceberg and she wishes it would change and is probably hamstrung.

[Ilkleymoor]

They also provided counselling for the staff who didn't help her but not for the woman who lost her baby.