What do womens rights mean to you?

[iidk]

Hi All,

I want to get some insight into how all the people in this section perceive womens rights. What does it mean to 'you' and which aspects of it stand out most to you. Also, if you could state which wave of feminism you identify with, that would also be great.

It means that women have the right not to perform on demand, and to tell the OP to go and read some threads on this board if they are genuinely interested in the answer to their questions.

They mean a massive amount to me and have since i was a child and even knew what feminism was.

I always noticed and hated the different expectations, treatment etc.

I've always seen that it was a systematic thing. Not one offs.

When older and started seeing the news more etc I knew that it was all connected, from the same place. From the trivial to the massive.

I don't know that I subscribe to a particular wave or whatever.

I have my own thoughts and views. I read what people say and think (know) that it's right or wrong.

In modern parlance. It's a key and massive part of my identity. It's who I am and always have been. My Feminism and views and etc are my own.

I don't identify as a feminist from a certain wave. I'm a woman: adult human female. Very strange question from the OP. What is your context for asking this question, seems a bit random when there is so much information on the women's rights talk sections where you can glean people's views?

I won't be writing the article for you, no.

@FemaleAndLearning

I don't identify as a feminist from a certain wave. I'm a woman: adult human female. Very strange question from the OP. What is your context for asking this question, seems a bit random when there is so much information on the women's rights talk sections where you can glean people's views?

Thanks for your input. There is an idea and then the expression of an idea. Although there is a lot of talk about the notion of womens rights, I don't see much on what it means for women on an individual level and which aspects of it stand out most to them - basically, intersectionality.

iidk
I'd be really interested in your own answer to the question you pose. What do you mean by intersectionality?

Given the number of misogynists who post here hoping to garner screenshots for social media, I think you’ll have to understand if people are wary, OP.

@EmpressWitchDoesntBurn

Given the number of misogynists who post here hoping to garner screenshots for social media, I think you’ll have to understand if people are wary, OP.

That explains it, thanks for letting me know. :)

You’re welcome. Far fetched as it sounds, there are people on Twitter who actually do that and are proud of it. We call them the misogynist monitors.

'Although there is a lot of talk about the notion of womens rights, I don't see much on what it means for women on an individual level and which aspects of it stand out most to them - basically, intersectionality.'

The NOTION of women's rights?

So for me right now it's Afghanistan. The whole population was subjected to horrific oppression when they were in charge before. And for women it was grim.

Not allowed to work
Not allowed to leave the house without a male relative
Strict dress codes
Breaking these would mean public flogging/ public execution.
For women with no husband or male relative around and children to feed. No way to get money.
No education for girls.
Etc etc

But I mean everyone knows what the taleban did last time.

So that's what's on my mind on an individual level right now. And I don't think my concern for the rights (safety security opportunity etc) of women and girls there is a notion.

Can you explain what that means?
You don't think that womens rights are a serious issue? Or important?

The notion of women's rights. Yes please do elaborate.

Although there is a lot of talk about the notion of womens rights, I don't see much on what it means for women on an individual level.

That's probably because there are plenty of people who just repeat the same old opinions they've been told are feminist and don't really introduce any critical thinking or individuality. With these individuals you can fairly accurately predict what their bottled response will be to certain questions, almost to the letter.

For me, it's things like Afghanistan and WOC, but also the trans situation. I'm not too interested in listening to white middle class women/academics play the violin whilst invariably turning a blind eye to the issues of other demographics - although it's not a race to the bottom either. Neither can I get too fussed about a man sitting with his legs too far apart on the train etc - it's just one of those things you deal with like sitting next to a fat person or a woman who wears too much perfume to the point of it choking you.

Is that a response to anything in particular said on the thread?

Or a general comment?

Not sure how to respond!

@NiceGerbil

Is that a response to anything in particular said on the thread?

Or a general comment?

Not sure how to respond!

I was replying to the OP and the bit I quoted.

No, it wasn't a pop at any previous poster.

@ChaneySays

Although there is a lot of talk about the notion of womens rights, I don't see much on what it means for women on an individual level.

That's probably because there are plenty of people who just repeat the same old opinions they've been told are feminist and don't really introduce any critical thinking or individuality. With these individuals you can fairly accurately predict what their bottled response will be to certain questions, almost to the letter.

For me, it's things like Afghanistan and WOC, but also the trans situation. I'm not too interested in listening to white middle class women/academics play the violin whilst invariably turning a blind eye to the issues of other demographics - although it's not a race to the bottom either. Neither can I get too fussed about a man sitting with his legs too far apart on the train etc - it's just one of those things you deal with like sitting next to a fat person or a woman who wears too much perfume to the point of it choking you.

Group think is a human issue, and permeates every strata of our worldly experience, feminism being no exception, hence the thread. Thanks for the contribution (to you and all else).

Hi OP

Can you expand on why you refer to the 'notion' of women's rights? It's a very particular choice of words and I'm not sure what you mean by it.

The right to education, to choose my career, to work without harassment or discrimination, to own my own home and run my own finances.

If I have those things, most other things fall in to place because I can vote with my feet. If I'm unhappy with something, I can choose to leave rather than to put up with it.

At this stage my standards are pretty low.

It would be nice if government could acknowledge that 52% of the population deserves a distinct unambigious name which we can distinguish ourselves by; which isn't a direct reference to our bodily functions or the default sex - ie. menstruators, pregnant person, person with cervix, non-men etc.

Probably somewhere between 2nd and 3rd wave.