WE are pregnant. Surrogacy is a team effort?

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A very well known baker in Australia who I follow on FB is using a surrogate.

No, It’s not a team effort. Your surrogate is pregnant, not you or your husband. He also wants pregnancy terminology overhauled? Why has this made me so angry?

I completely disagree with the NHS funding the exploitation of women's bodies.

Wow.. a man wanting to be the centre of attention about a very woman focused event? I’m shocked! Shocked I tell you!

What does he suggest for this pregnancy overhaul language use? Not being able for a woman to say she is pregnant? Not being able to talk about pregnancy as something that happens to only women?

Ladies we must always centre men in everything we do.

Pregnancy, menstruation, menopause… how can we include men? How can we be sure treat the language we use to describe something happening to our bodies includes them? Give me a break. Narcissism on display!

And this man sounds insufferable. So I guess having a child by surrogate is the new trend? What about all the children who can be adopted?

Have they chosen the sex of their off spring? You know a bit like choosing a puppy.

‘The second trimester for us has been the longest’

Christ on a bike.

Well HE paid for this baby (one way or an other) why shouldn't HE be the center of attention?

Another belter..

Babies grow and learn. Unlike his Cockerpoo his baby will have words...where is my mother, who is my mother, do I look like her, think like her, and was this right?

This is the most insufferable, navel gazing drivel I’ve had the displeasure of reading.

“Surrogates only identify as mothers to their own children “. My eyes rolled so hard here they might be stuck

He doesn’t understand that biology matters. All children have a mother! You can’t identify out of motherhood if you are actually a mother! Once you are pregnant you are technically a mother even if you don’t carry the pregnancy full term. A pregnant woman is mother to that child she is carrying. What is he talking about?

Every child ever born, every human born that has ever existed has a mother. You literally can’t exist unless a woman,your mother, carried you and birthed you. Even when a woman gives a child up for adoption, she is still a mother.

I get annoyed enough about the man in a couple saying 'we are pregnant' - no you dick 'we're going to be parents' or 'we're having a baby' but 'she's pregnant'

Adding a surrogate into the mix and it's an even worse turn of phrase

I called him out in the comments but it got removed and now I’m blocked 😂

Well.. I’m blocked from commenting. I can still see his posts, I just can’t like or comment on them.

You can feel proud you said the truth to him OP, but he probably didn't listen. Maybe he'd blame it on all the pregnancy hormones that are obviously pumping through his body...oh wait, he's a man!

My worry is what happens if tff he e baby doesn’t meet his consumer demands?

Ugh
I hate him! Sorry but I do

@PamDenick he'll have Nannys shock more women to sort out the drudgery, the baby will just need to be ready for selfies once a day. As the baby grows, he can just fake all is amazing and send it to boarding school if he changes his mind disposable asset.

He isnt go to potentially suffer lifelong gynaelogical problems ie fissures or incontinence through his contribution to the pregnancy, nor is he at risk of pregnancy complications that can lead to death during pregnancy and childbirth, so no as a man he does not get to change the language of pregnancy and giving birth.

Despite all the sarcasm on this thread, I feel really sad about this.

What is wrong being a father? Why is he so set about being a mother/ women - and pregnant??
Thinking about it, it's disturbing.

@Ylvamoon

Despite all the sarcasm on this thread, I feel really sad about this.

What is wrong being a father? Why is he so set about being a mother/ women - and pregnant??
Thinking about it, it's disturbing.

Some men can't bear that women have things and can do things that they can't. They want EVERYTHING.

I think certain men are always competitive that they are stronger, better, and have more value than a woman. In pregnancy women achieve the task of growing a fertilised egg into a multicellular small human. They envy the ability, cannot replicate it and so say they can do it...they can be pregnant clearly in their dreams.

My partner (male) likes to tell me he 'gave me two beautiful babies' to wind me up. It makes me rage. The sheer hell of the ivf and the extreme nausea. Not to mention the gallons of vomit. I literally shat myself from the force of the vomit coming out. 'We' are NOT pregnant.

@Soubriquet

Sure…you’re pregnant

Your belly is expanding and you’re putting on weight. The ligaments around your pelvis is loosening to accommodate your expansion and your pelvis is widening. Your breasts are getting bigger and are preparing to fill with milk. Your ankles may be swelling and so are your fingers. Your hormones are up and down and lots of other stuff is happening too.

Oh no…that’s not happening to you? You’re not fucking pregnant that’s why.

100%. Absolutely love this response. These selfish men don't care about women. Clearly their poor surrogate is just a baby vessel to them. Ugh.

For some reason I was reminded of this:

"“If I was a surrogate, and I had known there was going to be an audience, I probably would have waxed,” Lewis said on the broadcast. “And that was the shocking part for Gage. I don’t think Gage had ever seen a vagina, let alone one that big.”

Background:

Trent said she met Lewis and Edward in early 2015 when she responded to a classified ad. She had no idea she would be on a reality show, and had no interest in putting her life on display. She said she agreed to be their surrogate, and consented to the filming of ultrasound appointments to help promote the option of surrogacy.

But, she said, she drew the line at filming the birth. According to the suit, the producers agreed to that condition, but then filmed it surreptitiously from behind a curtain. Neither she nor her doctor were aware that the cameras were rolling as the baby was born. She can be heard on the show screaming in pain, and according to the suit her blurred-out vagina is shown on screen.

Trent said she was unaware the birth had been filmed until well after it had aired, when a business associate informed her of it at a networking event. She then watched clips online, and was humiliated and distraught.

variety.com/2018/biz/news/flipping-out-bravo-trent-1202844060/

Trent's story is only known because she spoke up and because those awful men thought nothing if joking about and filming her vagina for a world's audience. Imagine how many more surrogate mothers are treated like this and we just don't know about it.

Imagine growing up and researching that your dad laughed at your mum when she had you. The poor kids are going to be mentally messed up with these narc dads.

Just awful. It amazes me how little focus is on the baby’s needs as opposed to theirs. The baby’s right to have and know their mother. How they are trying to seperate the (glorious) end result of having a baby from the messy, difficult biological process of creating and carrying one.