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Nottingham maternity failings BBC24 11:20

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Choconuttolata · 22/07/2021 12:14

Solicitor representing women referring to birthing people only right after a segment in which a woman just talked about her birth trauma which resulted in an emergency hysterectomy and removal of her bladder by mistake.

So cross 😠

The people this happens to are female, the majority of these people call themselves women so why can't we say women and other birthing people.

Why do women just cease to be spoken about in the way they refer to themselves to avoid offending other people who choose another way to refer to themselves? Why can't we use both?

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Thelnebriati · 22/07/2021 13:12

The movement isn't about rights at all, its about dehumanising women.

Also, how do you remove a bladder by mistake?


Whatwouldscullydo · 22/07/2021 13:18

How do you remove a bladder by mistake Shock

Language is such an easy way to solve the problems isn't it. You don't have to do anything about improving things, Just remove the language to describe the issues and it all goes away.


Whatwouldscullydo · 22/07/2021 14:35

What's the point in medical records then if no one looks at them?

Why bother with the tests at all of the results aren't going going be passed on or a treatment plan made accordingly.

Having been subject to a total lack.of communication between medical personal.myself, I dont see how you can cite funding as part of the course when seemingly wasting money on tests and appointments that no one takes any notice of.

That poor poor woman


Thelnebriati · 22/07/2021 16:08

Here's the link without the Facebook group it was shared in (you delete everything after the ? in the URL)


Choconuttolata · 22/07/2021 16:09


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Babdoc · 22/07/2021 17:40

OP, the phrase you suggest: “women and other birthing people” is nonsensical.
There are NO other “birthing people”. The only people who can give birth ARE women - however they may identify, one cannot deny facts or biology. As a doctor, I find the very idea ludicrous.


Choconuttolata · 22/07/2021 18:10

I agree with you, I did identify in my post that the people that this happens to are all of the female sex, therefore women. It is biologically impossible for a human male or man to give birth.

If the solicitor was trying to be 'inclusive' to transmen and wanted to use that term then why exclude the concept of women giving birth altogether? That was my issue.

I find the use of birthing people offensive as a woman, but if a transman would like to be called a birthing person I have no issue with that, if they want that.

Just long as my reality and experience as a human female woman who experienced something very similar to that poor woman is not negated because they want their reality validated.

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