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Cosby free

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noneedtoexpelme · 30/06/2021 19:38

FFS

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dc723538-d9c7-11eb-b92f-5fe539a30c29?shareToken=fbb69481a476638129813b014277d2fa

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SmokedDuck · 03/07/2021 00:00

@Mayorquimby2

The chasing Cosby podcast was brilliantly put together and fucking chilling.

This is a horrible case because I think the judges had to allow the appeal and I think it's absolutely crystal clear that he's a horrible rapist.

It's so depressing to see people use this to point score, and I believe they're being wilfully ignorant.
I don't think it's people seeing the headline and jumping to the conclusion that the women are liars.
It's people who go in to every incident of this nature assuming women are liars and they know exactly the context here but don't give a fuck because they know the outcome gives them an opportunity to repeat the lie and add to their mythology of bitter women fucking over rich innocent men.

Or on the other side, you get people who see this and assume it's some kind of evidence that the courts want to let off rapists and people like Cosby. Even when it's fairly clear that there are real issues around legal process that need to be observed.
CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/07/2021 15:37

Or... It's both.

Some people are out to settle their own scores.

Others to ensure that the letter of the law is protected.

The DA fucked up.

That doesn't mean Cosby is not guilty as charged. His own words condemned him.

His money protected him, and continues to do so.

That his conviction has had to be overturned doesn't change any of that.

Blame the DA for his actions

Blame Cosby for his

SmokedDuck · 03/07/2021 16:12

@CuriousaboutSamphire

Or... It's both.

Some people are out to settle their own scores.

Others to ensure that the letter of the law is protected.

The DA fucked up.

That doesn't mean Cosby is not guilty as charged. His own words condemned him.

His money protected him, and continues to do so.

That his conviction has had to be overturned doesn't change any of that.

Blame the DA for his actions

Blame Cosby for his

Yes, absolutely, it's often the case that there are different kinds of responsibility when something happens like this. Cosby would be guilty of whatever he is guilty of whether it ever came to trial or even if it ever was public knowledge.

At the time I think offering him immunity probably looked like the best way forward. It was foolish to later try and ignore that, and now they are back to square one. Maybe they could't have made the case without the earlier testimony, but it wasn't an impossibility. Choices that undermine the system are always likely to come back to haunt you one way or another.

But I don't really like the tendency to use this sort of thing as an agenda, wither to undermine the validity of cases like this, or to suggest that it was done to let Cosby off. There is some truth to the idea that people with a lot of money are more able to pursue these things, while those without aren't, even if they are in the right. But that's not the real problem in this instance.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/07/2021 16:51

I don't think there's enough space here to list the number of things that are wrong with this, on both sides 😊

BatmansBat · 03/07/2021 21:16

I don’t think they offered immunity. The previous prosecutor stated that they would close the case and Cosby relied on that.

This meant that Cosby didn’t take the 5th (avoided answering questions that might incriminate him) and admitted to drugging women. Another prosecutor then re-opened the case.

This is rubbish and awful and I wish Cosby would rot in jail, but it is due process. When I studied law, the professor stated that just above 50% of all cases were won on process technical details. Nothing to do with right and wrong.

MaryHappyWin · 09/07/2021 16:09

I hate rapists. We need to punish evil rapists.
Rape is an evil crime.

newnortherner111 · 10/07/2021 10:59

I always draw a distinction between someone who is innocent, and someone found not guilty in a court. I think for the latter that the crime was committed but either lack of evidence or a failure in process meant they were not convicted.

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