Feminism: chat
Germany women murdered reporting
NiceGerbil · 27/06/2021 21:20
I read this in the news and it's a shocking attack.
The thing I'd like to discuss is the reporting and comments from the police.
'The three people killed in a knife attack in the German city of Würzburg on Friday were all women, police say.'
'Five women and a child were also injured in the attack.'
There is surely a pretty obvious characteristic that the victims have in common.
Over and over there are incidents where women are targeted, and most of the time this is not flagged or commented on. Outside of mainly feminist commentary anyway.
'Police say the suspect was possibly psychologically unstable and may have held extremist Islamist beliefs.'
'A police spokesman said that, while the attacker had a criminal record, none of his previous offences were related to terrorism.'
There seems to be a major blind spot with this. Why when it's women who are targeted is it not even slightly acknowledged? Not even 'The suspect seemed to target women, a motive has not been confirmed yet. Investigations continue' or similar.
And I'd be very interested to know what the previous offences were.
Anyone else noticed this? I know there've been threads on this topic before but given the reporting, thought it worth raising again.
Ohpulltheotherone · 27/06/2021 21:23
So sad.
Beggars belief doesn’t it.
As soon as you hear “women (and child) attacked / murdered on the news you know generally what is following. Partner / ex partner / Sexually motivated.
More rare that it is a random non sexually motivated attack isn’t it. Almost unheard of.
RoadToHell · 27/06/2021 21:32
Which news and do we have all the facts yet? So the BBC reported that all those attacked are women and islamist fundamentalist mentality is suspected of involved. That seems fairly accurate and that's the initial requirement for news. Sky and the Guardian are using the word 'people'. That, if the focus of the attack was women, does sound like a deliberate obfuscation.
NiceGerbil · 27/06/2021 21:44
@Ohpulltheotherone
Beggars belief doesn’t it.
As soon as you hear “women (and child) attacked / murdered on the news you know generally what is following. Partner / ex partner / Sexually motivated.
More rare that it is a random non sexually motivated attack isn’t it. Almost unheard of.
There have been attacks of this type by men who blame women for anything and everything wrong in their life.
One of the aspects is often around sex for sure.
Large online groups exist for men who despise women and young men can be radicalised.
With the terrorism aspect, it can be appealing as a 'reason' to take out your rage on whoever you see as to blame.
Other groups it usually says it looks like they targeted Muslim people, black people, Jewish people.
Women though it rarely goes like that.
NiceGerbil · 27/06/2021 21:49
Apologies forgot the link!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57624115
Wallpapering · 28/06/2021 14:23
On this I’d say if it classified as terrorist attack the sentencing will be more severe
Women are seen as disposable, so you can bet if classified as terrorist attacks on women it same old blame life woes that somehow justify murdering women.
This is terrorist attack on women IMO regardless of extremist, he murdered 3 women and further attack more women and child
CharlieParley · 28/06/2021 16:01
German reports state that two of the injured are male. The suspect has twice been involuntarily committed and had in previous aggressive behaviour not been discerning about the sex of his targets.
Der Spiegel states that it is not yet clear if the suspect deliberately targeted women, which tells you that a) it has of course not gone unnoticed that eight out of his ten victims were male and b) it is considered a possibility that the attack both targeted women and had an extremist (islamist) background.
From the reporting it is possible that at least the slightly injured man may have been one of the men involved in trying to stop the attacker (there were several such attempts by other shoppers before the police arrived), which would support this being an attack targeted at women.
I don't know why BBC/Sky/etc are not mentioning that this is being considered as a motive. Maybe it got lost in translation.
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