Feminism: chat
RIP Gracie Spinks
WorkingItOutAsIGo · 19/06/2021 21:12
Only 23, pursued by a stalker. Done everything right - she had a restraining order against him. She has been found murdered and the body of a man found nearby.
What can we do to get the crime of stalking taken seriously?
StrangeLookingParasite · 19/06/2021 22:20
Apparently one of the 'villagers' who lives nearby called it 'possibly a crime of passion'
This sickens me - trying to make this out to be something bloody romantic. It was murder.
Oh yes, you should like the unwanted attention of some utter loser, because it's romantic.
Fuck the fuck off.
Gumbomambo · 19/06/2021 22:48
Devastatingly sad. This kind of behaviour seems to start out low level, then insidiously creeps up. Restraining orders are pointless to these people. I try to think what can actually be done in a real way to protect these frightened vulnerable girls? It always just seems to be swept under the carpet. Another one too many and it just breaks my heart.
Watermelon221 · 19/06/2021 22:58
Stalking and other crimes like flashing etc need to be taken much more seriously with much harsher penalties.
It must be utterly terrifying to have to put up with this with nowhere to turn for proper help.
I don’t know what the answer is, but there needs to be some pretty serious overhauling of the current system which seems to always work against the victims.
hoorayforharoldlloyd · 20/06/2021 12:41
We can write to the force to ask why she wasn't protected, kit malthouse the policing minister to ask why stalking is not being taken seriously enough as a crime and the home secretary to ask why we don't have a stalker or domestic abuse register.
I'm so angry it let's use our anger to try and make change. Gracie deserved so much better. 23 years old,I just can't accept this any more.
334bu · 20/06/2021 13:33
334bu · 20/06/2021 13:38
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/19/bodies-of-woman-23-and-man-in-30s-found-in-fields-near-derbyshire-village
So why was stalking omitted from Abuse Bill and why is there no record of stalkers?
This has to change.
SnoopyLights · 20/06/2021 14:26
@Letsgetreadytocrumble
RIP Gracie - another woman totally failed by those who are supposed to protect us.
That makes me so angry.
She didn't know him.
She wasn't friends with him.
She never had a relationship with him.
She took out a restraining order against him.
She was just living her life normally.
He saw her.
He became obsessed with her.
He harassed her.
He stalked her.
He killed her.
There's no passion there. There was no relationship, no interest in him on her part. And nothing romantic on his part either, no love, no passion, just a pathetic man obsessed with a stranger, feeling so entitled to force himself into her life that he felt he had a right to take it.
I hate how this type of crime is excused by people time and time again, whether a relationship took place or not. Girls and women being held responsible for the feelings of boys and men.
Girls being put under pressure to date boys when they don't want to - because he likes you - why won't you give him a chance - would it kill you to go out on a date with him? And actually, yes it could kill her. So could saying no.
Women being held responsible for their own murders - she said no, she humiliated him, she laughed at him, she had an affair, she broke up with him, she said the wrong thing at the wrong time, she left him, all excused under the banner of 'crimes of passion' because he couldn't help himself due to her behaviour.
It makes me furious and it makes me sick.
ArabellaScott · 20/06/2021 14:54
@hoorayforharoldlloyd
I'm so angry it let's use our anger to try and make change. Gracie deserved so much better. 23 years old,I just can't accept this any more.
Thank you, yes. Is there a campaign to look at stalking and how its policed?
ArabellaScott · 20/06/2021 16:07
I have had a look.
Suzy Lamplugh trust has information on stalking
www.suzylamplugh.org/Event/open-access-personal-safety-course-june-2021
Victim support resources:
www.mysupportspace.org.uk/moj
CPS info:
www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/stalking-and-harassment
women's Aid info:
www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/stalking/
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