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It’s just a bunch of hysterical, middle-aged women.

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Babysharkdoodoodood · 13/06/2021 15:48

Good article in the Guardian today recognising how women with long term illnesses are dismissed as having 'psychological issues', instead of being properly diagnosed.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jun/13/why-are-women-more-prone-to-long-covid?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

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SilverGlassHare · 13/06/2021 15:50

I read a similar article about this in The Times - trouble is, they were kind of saying ‘women get dismissed as is being psychological’ but at the same time. Implying it’s psychological.

AdaFuckingShelby · 13/06/2021 15:51

Misogyny in action. Men can't take it seriously because they don't know how to fix it therefore blame the women so you don't have to think about it anymore. Even with many women in medicine these days the shadow of the last few hundred years is long.

SilverGlassHare · 13/06/2021 15:59

Ffs I hate typing on my iPhone, it makes me look completely illiterate.

Herja · 13/06/2021 16:00

Yes! My lovely friend was dismissed with 'psychological reasons' despite coughing up blood in large amounts, frequently and repeatedly. Turned out she was hemorrhaging into her lungs with a rare condition. Ended up with a long hospital stay and multiple organ failure.

Boyfriends mother AND grandmother were told by the same GP their stomach ulcers were psychosomatic. After his mother's imaginary ulcer ruptured (after several years of huge pain), they fortunately immediately saught a second opinion when the grandmother was fobbed off with exactly the same symptoms by the same person.

My mother had a minor operation without any anasthetic, due to a mix up and no one believing her that she hasn't had pain relief and could feel everything - they were cutting out an inch deep section of infected tissue. She was also told they would not check a skin graft site after a major operation as 'it is going to hurt I'm afraid' - huge infection which lead to isolation and a month long hospital stay. They wouldn't even check the wound. She is a woman who has broken multiple bones, had long term illness, many infections and operations. Nope, didn't trust her knowledge of her own pain.

I know so, so many women who have been told their pain is all in their head.

guinnessguzzler · 13/06/2021 16:08

What I don't understand is why there are so few women in comedy when we're all so hysterical Grin.

Leafstamp · 13/06/2021 16:21

Yes, this a long standing problem. Thanks for the link OP.

This article discusses further - in the vein of the Invisible Women book:

www.forthwithlife.co.uk/blog/womens-health-isnt-being-taken-seriously/

Babdoc · 13/06/2021 17:43

The NHS is setting up long Covid clinics across the country. It is very definitely accepted as a genuine illness.
I’m a retired doctor who has suffered from it since being hospitalised with Covid 15 months ago - I certainly haven’t been fobbed off, and my breathlessness and fatigue have been thoroughly investigated up to and including a CT pulmonary angiogram.

WoolOfBat · 13/06/2021 17:50

I think the way women are treated by the medical profession is appalling. I don’t think the maternity wards - or the 5x higher mortality of black women - would be anywhere near the state it is if they treated men.

I was in the A&E for heart issues a few month ago. The male doctor kept telling me that it was probably a panic attack and that I shouldn’t worry. Nothing I said changed his mind. Until he got my notes up on the system from my cardiologist. Then he suddenly changed. A man would not have been treated like that.

MildredPuppy · 13/06/2021 17:52

I will never forget sitting down with my consultant for some pelvic pain i was having post birth. He welcomed me. Explained how some people get stuck in a pain cycle after an event and drew a little diagram about pain being psychological and what i could do to move on. He said this was very common in young women. He then opened up the MRI. Crumpled up his stupid diagram and said 'oh. Apologies that doesnt apply here' as he could see the problem very clearly. There starting point is 'it must be in her head!'

Sophoclesthefox · 13/06/2021 18:34

That’s very interesting. The parallels with autoimmune disease and the way women with those are often treated has occurred to me before.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 13/06/2021 18:48

Ah yes. So many instances before I was diagnosed correctly.
It wasn't piles, I wasn't tired, I wasn't eating too much, I wasn't depressed and I definitely wasn't dehydrated.

IsAnybodyListening · 13/06/2021 19:11

Yes. When my daughter was 5 and my son 1 I went to the doctor and explained all my symptoms. He told me 'You are a new Mother' I reminded him I had an older child and knew something was wrong with me. I was dismissed. A few years later after fainting the appropriate tests were taken, It turned out I was B12 deficient. The nurse had to inject me every few days for a few weeks to get my levels to normal and was amazed I hadn't had this identified before.

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