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South Korean Women mocking penises - LA Times

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OhHolyJesus · 12/06/2021 12:50

...in a protest about pay and labour conditions, but of course it's all about the penis.

I share in humour, not to show support of this news outlet, but to show support for the women fighting back.

twitter.com/latimes/status/1403436506555961344?s=21

I'm quite proud of the women standing up for themselves, in S Korea...as patronising. as that sounds. I can only imagine what life is like for them there.

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FannyCann · 12/06/2021 13:26

I found this article really fascinating and there are many lessons for all of us in it, such as how women are being proactive with language reversals.

"Take Off the Corset
Between 2015-2016 and 2017-2018, South Korean women spent 53.5 billion Korean won less on beauty products and cosmetic surgeries, investing in cars instead, choosing independence over objectification. Part of this cultural of feminine beauty practices was spurred by the 4B movement, as well as “Take Off the Corset.” Inspired by Sheila Jeffreys’ Beauty and Misogyny (translated in Korean as Corset: Beauty and Misogyny),"

How I would love to see young western women reject the plastic over made up kardashian model like this and stop spending on beauty products, make up and procedures.


www.feministcurrent.com/2020/06/15/the-south-korean-womens-movement-we-are-not-flowers-we-are-a-fire/

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boatyardblues · 12/06/2021 13:33

While anti-feminism has been associated with alt-right movements elsewhere, in South Korea, suspicion of and antipathy toward feminism are gaining broad-based support. More than 65% of South Korean men in their 20s said they equated feminism with hatred of men, according to a 2018 survey by the Korean Women’s Development Institute, and 56.5% said they would break up with their girlfriend if she was a feminist.

Omo! 😮 Well that’s blown my chances of shacking up with an age appropriate oppa if DH and I ever split. 🤣

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boatyardblues · 12/06/2021 13:34

Oops, wrong thread.

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boatyardblues · 12/06/2021 13:40

Silliness aside, this article is from 2018 and shows this is a movement which is building up a head of steam: www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-45201725

An increasing number of South Korean women are choosing not to marry, not to have children, and not even to have relationships with men. With the lowest fertility rate in the world, the country's population will start shrinking unless something changes.
"I have no plans to have children, ever," says 24-year-old Jang Yun-hwa, as we chat in a hipsterish cafe in the middle of Seoul.
"I don't want the physical pain of childbirth. And it would be detrimental to my career."
Like many young adults in South Korea's hyper-competitive job market, Yun-hwa, a web comic artist, has worked hard to get where she is and isn't ready to let all that hard graft go to waste.
"Rather than be part of a family, I'd like to be independent and live alone and achieve my dreams," she says.
Yun-hwa isn't the only young Korean woman who sees career and family as mutually exclusive.
There are laws designed to prevent women being discriminated against for getting pregnant, or for just being of an age where that's a possibility - but in practice, unions say, they're not enforced.

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OhHolyJesus · 12/06/2021 17:13

Thanks Fanny and Boaty

Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing.

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boatyardblues · 12/06/2021 17:33

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Siablue · 12/06/2021 22:20

I do love the fire of South Korean rad fems. They are up against so much but they are so fiesty.

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boatyardblues · 20/06/2021 06:25

The backlash is never far behind:

www.economist.com/asia/2021/06/19/young-men-in-south-korea-feel-victimised-by-feminism
Young men in South Korea feel victimised by feminism

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MargaritaPie · 21/06/2021 19:11

I fail to understand how mocking men is going to make men supportive of their cause?

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Ozanj · 21/06/2021 19:17

Asian feminism usually overlaps with Asian lesbian movements. Feminist is even sometimes used as a ‘polite’ way to say lesbian. So I think you guys are missing major cultural points.

The backlash against Korean beauty standards (or plastic surgery if you want to be honest) is driven by Chinese and Japanese consumers (the biggest markets for any Korean made product) who don’t like it. Many Chinese and Japanese people view it in a very negative way.

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JackieWeaversZoomAc · 21/06/2021 23:34

🤏🏼🤏🏼🤏🏼🤏🏼
My fav new emoji.

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boatyardblues · 21/06/2021 23:53

@Ozanj

Asian feminism usually overlaps with Asian lesbian movements. Feminist is even sometimes used as a ‘polite’ way to say lesbian. So I think you guys are missing major cultural points.

The backlash against Korean beauty standards (or plastic surgery if you want to be honest) is driven by Chinese and Japanese consumers (the biggest markets for any Korean made product) who don’t like it. Many Chinese and Japanese people view it in a very negative way.

Your comment about the overlap between feminism and lesbianism in South Korea is interesting. Are the women’s universities viewed through a different lens?
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