Oxfam training document blames women for "the root causes of sexual violence"

[ChristinaXYZ]

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The article below from the Telegraph appears to be from an Oxfam training document called Learning About Trans Rights and Inclusion

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/09/oxfam-training-guide-blames-privileged-white-women-root-causes/

An Oxfam staff training document says “privileged white women” are supporting the root causes of sexual violence by wanting "bad men" imprisoned.

Wtaf?

How any legitimate organisation can get away with victim blaming like that is shameful at best. How dare anyone blame a victim for their sexual assault or blame feminism for sexual assaults.

I've just read this article. Its jaw droppingly awful. (The Telegraph often have free trials or £1 per month subscriptions there are a lot of GC articles at the moment).

Mainstream feminism centres on privileged white women and demands that ‘bad men’ be fired or imprisoned

Classic DARVO.

Mainstream transactivism centres on privileged white males and demands that 'bad females' be fired or imprisoned.

patriarchal and white supremacist narrative

Like privileged white males appropriating the oppression of women of colour?

So, as a brown person, when I reported my slightly less brown than me stalker and sexual assaulter, did I become white for the purposes of the prosecution? Did I oppress him?

@NiceGerbil

Is there a link to the doc or a non paywalled article?

archive.li/itpqA

(For those asking for the full article see post by "ItsAllGoingToBeFine" Wed 09-Jun-21 22:23:20 - page 1 of this thread)

I am so angry about this on two counts.

First of all for women who work at Oxfam and women who are reliant on services from Oxfam - not only the Haiti scandal but only in April this year they had their funding suspended because of fresh allegations of abuse.

Secondly for all those members of the LGB community who are having their name dragged through this misogynistic sewer.

This is so desparately sad.

We may have had some few bits of good news in the past few days, but unfortunately the poison of the queer politics that props up the trans narrative is now deeply embeddedin many organisations.

If Oxfam had any integrity they should publicly apologise to women.

The strategic leadership team responded saying that there “is no place in Oxfam for transphobia”.

But for sexual abuse and rape, sure. All the places.

I stopped paying any attention to Oxfam when it became apparent that they were raping children.

I have been googling but can't find the doc and can't read behind the paywall.

The speed with which the idea that feminism (what, for all time, everywhere in the world?) has been accepted is just another example of the situation with how women are viewed. And of course feminists have always been hated. Plus of course the fact this argument has come from USA and has been happily applied everywhere. Any woman who is a feminist can be a white feminist, if she says things men don't like, irrespective of whether she's white or not...

Hopeless but nothing new.

Yes racism is a massive problem. Yes women who do not experience racism can be useless. These are conversations (arguments) that have been going on for years.

But this white feminism thing ignores the fact that

Feminism is not a club you subscribe to. Women and girls who take feminist actions don't see themselves as feminists they're just pissed off. Most of the world is not white. Feminism exists outside of USA and UK etc fgs and always has.

Most feminists I am aware of, before all this. The main issues were VAWG, sex offences, lack of interest in/protection from predators. Child sex abuse. Poverty etc etc. And they care about women and girls. Full stop.

So the idea that feminism is about what. Saying. Eg sex offences are way too prevalent and things need to change. But only for white wealthy women.

I mean. Really??!!

The article is archived in this thread. Putting it kindly, Alison Phipps appears to have the worst case of internalised misogyny I've ever seen.

I googled her and came across this pathetic article www.thecut.com/article/who-did-j-k-rowling-become.html which I vaguely remember from the time.

"Alison Phipps is a professor of gender studies at the University of Sussex and the author of Me, Not You: The Trouble With Mainstream Feminism. In her observation of the self-styled “gender-critical” feminists, their position “has a lot to do with trauma, and it has a lot to do with anger,” she told me. “I’m not excusing this politics, but I think that that is a reason for it. I think there are a lot of women involved in gender-critical feminism who have been really, really badly hurt by men — cis men.” The problem is that “gender-critical feminism completely misrepresents where the danger is. Very few people are going to be raped by somebody in a public toilet.” (A 2019 Harvard study, meanwhile, found that policies restricting bathroom access by birth sex were correlated with a greater likelihood of sexual assault for trans and nonbinary teens.) Fears can be ungrounded or unfair and still be genuinely felt. “People’s triggers are not politically correct,” Phipps said. You can support people who are triggered, try to help them manage their fears — but “that doesn’t mean that people’s triggers should be used as the basis of policy.”
The experience of womanhood that anti-trans feminists present often seems to be defined by fear."

Two women are murdered a week by men and our fear of them is ungrounded according to Phipps. Since this article, she's clearly added a current twist to imply only write women are afraid of men. I don't think black women have some kind of magic forcefield around them. 1,000 black women and girls were murdered in the US last year. We should all be afraid of men, no matter what our skin colour.

And the obvious question is why wasn't Oxfam's Women's Network organising the training.

In what world would anyone allow a totally different group be allowed to speak of another group.

Mansplaning at its most extreme.

They should be named and shamed.

And the Directors and CEO asked what sort of organisation they are running.

I'm very confused by Alison Phipps, though I admit I can't be bothered to investigate too much if anyone can enlighten me more in a couple of easy to understand sentences.

On the one hand her book talks about white feminist tears, and white feminists causing harm when they fight sexual violence. But there she is on twitter breaking her heart over Sarah Everard.

And elsewhere she appears to be saying biology is real. But then she appears to support men who say they are women.

Perhaps her twitter bio "All views Sally Hines" is the clue.

Phipp's book: Me Not You: The Trouble with Mainstream Feminism, a book by Alison Phipps, a professor of gender studies at the University of Sussex.

Review: blogs.lse.ac.uk/impactofsocialsciences/2020/11/15/book-review-me-not-you-the-trouble-with-mainstream-feminism-by-alison-phipps/

White feminism and the racial capitalist protection racket: from #MeToo to Me, Not You manchesteruniversitypress.co.uk/blog/2021/05/07/white-feminism-and-the-racial-capitalist-protection-racket-from-metoo-to-me-not-you/

Phipps gender theory syllabus:

PDF: genderate.files.wordpress.com/2021/03/gender-theory-syllabus-1.pdf

twitter.com/alisonphipps/status/1372327712837275650?s=20

Her blog post on abolition feminism: manchesteruniversitypress.co.uk/blog/2020/06/08/what-do-we-do-me-not-you/

Not sure if this is one of her documents referenced in the article.

White tears, white rage: Victimhood and (as) violence in mainstream feminism

journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1367549420985852

@TedImgoingmad

So, as a brown person, when I reported my slightly less brown than me stalker and sexual assaulter, did I become white for the purposes of the prosecution? Did I oppress him?

Ah no. It's very straightforward.

What you did was fine, although obviously in the future any penalty for men who do that will be removed.

If you were white, it would be a grossly offensive act of colonial oppressive privilege.

Although you reveal you aren't white. So I'm sure you understand that all the women on these boards who are white would like stalking you to be legal and fine, but stalking us to be illegal and not fine. But only the rich ones.

Easy peasy.

Naturally my explaining that to you as a white woman is an oppressive act in itself. Any information shared by white women is oppressive. For example, Marie curie. Shared information about radioactivity. If only she'd let her husband do it, what was she thinking?

(Did he get dealt with? )

It's MRA/incel culture masquerading as a progressive movement. They did it first by piggybacking onto the gay rights movement (as also attempted by PIE and NAMBLA) and now that anti-racism is hot that is their next forced alignment. If you want rapists locked up, if you're one of those bitches who thinks Colin Pitchfork is a 'bad man,' then you are also (labyrinthine, academic mental gymnastics) a racist!

They're on a power-trip and it's about forced pretending. They're trying to see how much they can force people into pretending their nasty, twisted batshittery is sane.

For various reasons, I think prompted by the recent murders of Esther Brown and Mildred Whitmore, and the news in the cases of Sarah Everard and Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman, I've been thinking a lot about female victims of violence today, some connected to people I know, including one teenager who was raped and murdered because she rejected the advances of a man in a pub. This has got me fuming. I think part of it is Phipps's academic ivory tower detachment. I've met lots of academics like it; it's all about the challenge of formulating an argument rather than the viability or truth of the argument. 'Women are responsible for male sexual violence? Yeah, I'll try to see if I can convince people of that thesis. Might even try to get a publication out of it.'

Anyway, Oxfam can fuck right off.

Wow. 😵

PaleGreenGhost

BTW I've a tenner a month going spare to a genuine, preferably female led, good cause as of tomorrow.

Please see this thread for a selection

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4184062-Feminist-goals-and-organisations-which-are-working-towards-them

Since this article, she's clearly added a current twist to imply only write women are afraid of men

No that's been her thing for a while. She criticises every aspect of feminism by saying (without any explanation) '....so it's actually racist'.

She opposes the suffragettes, criminalisation of violence against women, women only sports- basically all feminism.

I'm pretty sure she doesn't believe a word and is just trolling for academic attention.

Thank you for the archived link.

Is the author from the UK?

In the USA the situation especially in some areas around race, sex, police, power etc are necessary. There are dynamics there specific to their history that are ongoing.

The UK has issues with racism etc but our history, how the police work, who they are interested in looking after etc are not the same.

I find it bizarre that so many arguments have been adopted wholesale in a totally different country/s.

It's not thought through, it's not helping actual issues around sex racism etc in the other countries. It's not given any thought. It's just. Where's the consideration to anything at all?

Similarly the anti carceral movement is from the states. And is much more nuanced and understandable in the context of the situation there with the prison system which is fucked up.

journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1367549420985852

Is the author from the UK?

Phipps is from the UK, though to read her stuff, you'd never know- it's all speaking as if on behalf of black Americans. I was gobsmacked when I realised she was white- her confidence that she knows what all black people think is amazing.

I also don't get what Phipps means by 'mainstream feminism.' Mainstream feminism is ardently pro-gender and seems to be obsessed with the idea that anyone who doesn't look like a supermodel getting onto the front cover of Vogue is the game-changer in women's rights.