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Arlene Foster suing Dr Christian

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MissyB1 · 14/04/2021 16:26

Apparently he tweeted that she was having an affair (without any proof), and the way he put it was a spiteful little jibe about her being a “sanctity of marriage preaching woman” adding “it always comes back to bite them on the arse”
Now I understand he might have an issue with her as I think she was against same sex marriage. But this man always strikes me as an arrogant twat and a nasty piece of work.

I tried to post the link but I’m such a technophobe! it’s on BBC news website

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C8H10N4O2 · 30/05/2021 19:47

@MrsTerryPratchett

The only reason i could see is that people think that CJ is worse, and i figured that its probably due to the trans thing

My assessment would be that the 'trans thing' is a symptom of a larger issue with him. That he thinks women are more disposable. Whether that's so transwomen can be in female spaces, or a 12 yo girl can be sacrificed for cultural relativism or Arlene Foster seemingly for a laugh. Even that sleb having an abortion.

I don't follow him on Twitter. Does he do the same to men? Are 12 yo boys being raped just a shrug? Does he libel right wing NI male politicians? Does a male celebrity not looking after a child get pilloried? That's why it's a feminist issue for me, because it's about women as a class.

Exactly.

I don't see what is remotely feminist about supporting libel and abuse against women on the grounds that we personally don't agree with them speaking on equal terms as men.

This kind of trolling and abuse by arrogant, misogynistic men is driving women of all views out of the public arena. Either you are happy with that or not. I'm not.

FKATondelayo · 30/05/2021 20:00

Feminism is not individualism. It's about women as a class. This outcome should be celebrated because it will benefit a whole class of women - UK politicians - who are subjected to constant misogynist abuse and harassment online. Women like Diane Abbott, Dawn Foster, Joanna Cherry, Theresa May, Jess Philips, Priti Patel. Does it matter if you agree with them or not? No. It sends a message to misogynists that they can and will be held to account.

Men who harass and lie about women online aren't going to start with Emma Thompson or Judi Dench, are they? They'll start with the women that are easy pickings, low-hanging fruit, already loathed and therefore they will have fewer defenders.

Completely agree MrsTerryPratchett.

Dworkin:
"Feminism is a political practice of fighting male supremacy in behalf of women as a class, including all the women you don't like, including all the women you don't want to be around, including all the women who used to be your best friends whom you don't want anything to do with anymore. It doesn't matter who the individual women are."

PronounssheRa · 30/05/2021 20:02

www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/tv-doctor-launches-online-appeal-to-cover-arlene-foster-defamation-case-costs-1.4579345

Dr Jessen, best known for his appearances on Channel 4’s Embarrassing Bodies, claims he doesn’t have the money, and faces going bankrupt as he was “down to my last ££20,000 [€23,000]”.

He best get selling one of those apartments he owns.

AssassinatedBeauty · 30/05/2021 20:08

He really doesn't understand his privilege does he? Most people don't have £20,000 in savings. Most people could live on £20,000 for a year, but he says it won't last him long! And all down to his own stupidity and arrogance.

JediGnot · 30/05/2021 20:11

There's some weird posts on here.

I find it hard to believe that anyone can disagree with my view. (Obvs they can!)

If this were a "who do you like best out of the pair?" contest then they'd sit joint third on 0% each.

But it's not, it's "do you support the lying misygnist or do you support the person libelled by a lying misogynist?" I find it hard to see how anyone can't - however briefly - support Foster on this one issue.

Egghead68 · 30/05/2021 20:13

Here’s the crowdfunding link:

uk.gofundme.com/f/dr-christian-jessenarlene-foster

It’s not going so well.

I’m sure I walked past his Harley St practice not so long ago though...

Definately · 30/05/2021 20:18

@titchy

I just was really not expecting to see a thread on the feminist board supportive of Arlene Foster for any reason

Really? So if she was beaten, raped, burnt alive by a gang of misogynistic men you wouldn't expect an FWR thread appalled at what had happened and expressing horror. Because of her political views? Wow. Just. Wow.

Feminism is about all women (female ones for clarity). Not just the ones you happen to agree with. And yes that includes idiot like Alice Roberts. And you.

Yes. It's not really feminism if support for women is conditional on them having exactly the same views on everything. Arlene Fosters political views are strongly rooted in both the history of her family (her father was shot and killed by the IRA) and her beliefs as a Christian. I support all women, unionist or nationalist, atheist, Christian, Muslim or whatever their faith may be, to not be subjected to abuse from misogynistic dicks like Christian Jessen. Encouraging dislike, hatred, lack of support - that is where they divide us and conquer is.

Definately · 30/05/2021 20:21

@Egghead68

Here’s the crowdfunding link:

uk.gofundme.com/f/dr-christian-jessenarlene-foster

It’s not going so well.

I’m sure I walked past his Harley St practice not so long ago though...

The blurb on that is ridiculous. All this 'me, me, me' stuff. AF was almost in tears on the radio talking about what her family had to endure listening to the rubbish he spread.

teawamutu · 30/05/2021 20:30

@JediGnot

There's some weird posts on here.

I find it hard to believe that anyone can disagree with my view. (Obvs they can!)

If this were a "who do you like best out of the pair?" contest then they'd sit joint third on 0% each.

But it's not, it's "do you support the lying misygnist or do you support the person libelled by a lying misogynist?" I find it hard to see how anyone can't - however briefly - support Foster on this one issue.

Agree with every word.
BoreOfWhabylon · 30/05/2021 20:32

Only £20,000?

What about these?

Arlene Foster suing Dr Christian
Arlene Foster suing Dr Christian
BoreOfWhabylon · 30/05/2021 20:34

Those are the apartments owned by Jessen, as detailed in the judgement.

ThursdayWeld · 30/05/2021 20:35

Hang on, I'm just searching for my tiny violin.

dyslek · 30/05/2021 20:40

@BoreOfWhabylon

Those are the apartments owned by Jessen, as detailed in the judgement.
Buy to leach landlord as well...this guy just gets better and better. Prince among men. Not.
BoreOfWhabylon · 30/05/2021 20:45

Well, he lives in at least one of them.

dyslek · 30/05/2021 20:54

Maybe he lives in both of them?
Plausable compaired to some ofthe excuses hes comeout with.

C0nstance · 30/05/2021 21:36

breakingnews covers the story of jessen's go fund me attempts

Nice to see the comments aren't all automatically on his side because she is NI's first minister, far from it. Little sympathy for him.

C0nstance · 30/05/2021 21:39

I was reading the comments on my phone, not sure they're visible through that link, but nice to see that there isn't huge support for him, comments like he could have avoided the bill by apologising so why should other people pay. plus ''should have kept his mouth shut'' and ''thems the breaks if you wilfully smear somebody knowing it to be false''

ScreamingMeMe · 30/05/2021 22:15

@C0nstance

breakingnews covers the story of jessen's go fund me attempts

Nice to see the comments aren't all automatically on his side because she is NI's first minister, far from it. Little sympathy for him.

Maybe now Jessen will truly understand what The Streisand Effect is. Pillock.
BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 30/05/2021 22:35

My response to his self-inflicted misery is the same as his response to the correspondence from Arlene Foster’s legal representative: LOL

His total arrogance and bare-faced dishonesty in court are breathtaking

Triphazards · 30/05/2021 22:38

@PronounssheRa

www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/tv-doctor-launches-online-appeal-to-cover-arlene-foster-defamation-case-costs-1.4579345

Dr Jessen, best known for his appearances on Channel 4’s Embarrassing Bodies, claims he doesn’t have the money, and faces going bankrupt as he was “down to my last ££20,000 [€23,000]”.

He best get selling one of those apartments he owns.

If he's a doctor, why can't he earn money?
TheHandmadeTail · 30/05/2021 23:07

If anyone who actually reads this case then goes on to contribute to his GoFundMe, they’re an idiot IMO.

I’m not saying they’re idiots but some of the comments show they don’t understand what has actually happened I don’t think.

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Tibtom · 31/05/2021 00:22

Not the article I remembered but CJ and an online pharmacy: www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45084555

StillFemale · 31/05/2021 00:22

Branleuse One reason I care is I’ve been in the position of male colleagues making up rumours about me having an affair to undermine me professionally, there it was not so much about the moralising but to distract from my professional accomplishments.

I have also lived and worked in Northern Ireland so I’m pissed off at people who don’t understand the politics interfering in ignorance as CJ was doing. I don’t know how well you understand the politics of NI ? I’d never support the DUP but legally power sharing needs the involvement of the leader of the largest unionist party. He had no fucking clue what was at stake right then and he didnt care.

I also feel strongly about abortion rights but you can’t lay all the blame on AF, the Catholic Church and the Republic need to share that blame. AF is a moderate in the DUP, if you think shes bad the rest of them are so very much worse.

CJ attitudes to women are vile he’s by no means the only one so I’ll admit I’m happy to see one of them have their comeuppance and hope it will give others pause for thought. I saw his and Harrops comments on twitter about the 12 year child bride in Niger when they were made and it made me feel physically sick

I dont know who Alice Roberts is so I’ll not comment on that.

I support other women I dont agree with when they are being unfairly attacked by misogynistic men but people like you who assume that means i agree with everything they have ever said make that difficult

NiceGerbil · 31/05/2021 00:57

Branleuse

If you were on a train platform and on the opposite one you could see a man approaching schoolgirls on their way home, striking up conversation, standing too close. They were uncomfortable.

And a woman came up and told him to stop it and bugger off and she was going to report him.

Would you think yay good for her?

Or would you only think that if you knew her politics and it was ok by you?

I don't understand how you can't see that this isn't support for the beliefs of her political party. But happiness at seeing an openly misogynist man getting what was coming to him, because a woman stood up to him.

Ok try another way.

I was born RC and went to a convent school.
When I grew up I decided the RC church wasn't for me because I strongly disagree with a lot of things and I think they have caused and continue to cause massive harm to women and girls around the world.

A few years back I fell over walking home and hurt myself quite badly. A passing nun helped me up, chatted to me while I checked myself over, offered to help me home (I was bleeding a lot). I knew she was RC because it's all very local and we don't have many nuns.

Anyway. Should I have been less grateful for her help because of her religion? Should I not have been grateful at all? Should I have taken the opportunity to challenge her?

In this instance it is a woman standing up to a man, not taking shit, and winning.

As a woman I'm very very very happy about this.

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