Arlene Foster suing Dr Christian

[MissyB1]

Apparently he tweeted that she was having an affair (without any proof), and the way he put it was a spiteful little jibe about her being a “sanctity of marriage preaching woman” adding “it always comes back to bite them on the arse”
Now I understand he might have an issue with her as I think she was against same sex marriage. But this man always strikes me as an arrogant twat and a nasty piece of work.

I tried to post the link but I’m such a technophobe! it’s on BBC news website

I expect the judge looked at the map too.

Judge had his measuring tape, stopwatch and calculator. He was constructing a detailed map of Jessen's since the start of 2020.

I think he was enjoying playing detective. There's me thinking investigating judges weren't part of our legal system...

I guess they get to play when it's not a criminal case.

Gah - "detailed map of Jessen's movements since 2020", obviously.

I guess they get to play when it's not a criminal case.

I follow Barney McElhone's judgements for the pure entertainment and common sense of them He's a different judge but reports of his cases are as enjoyable to read as this one...

Oh my god the ratio on that GoFundMe tweet!

I am actually really heartened by all this. It does goes to show that arrogant, vile misogyny will actually catch up with you after all. Surely his career will be hugely damaged by this too, I hope Harrop is watching!

I read in the judgement in full (yay, me!) and thought the judge did a great job of dismantling Jessen's testimony.

I wonder what Jessen's future employment prospects - other than self-employment - are. Perhaps Pink News could employ him as their health correspondent? Or he could find work with Mermaids?

'Further, in the podcast entitled “Lockdown Gaming with Linda Papadopoulos” broadcast on 29 April 2020, there is a section in which Dr Jessen described playing sports games on his old “X Box” and finding that this was “fantastically good for exercise.” Dr Jessen went to state: “You know, there I am with my other half and we are like going bowling or playing virtual ping pong or something because we don’t have the room at home and it’s exhausting and we’re covered in sweat and sort of lying on the floor in a heap, panting.”

These two contemporaneous vignettes of Dr Jessen’s home life do not support his evidence that in the period between March 2020 and April 2021, he was living with his parents in Fulham'

Jessen has raised just over £2,000 in six days.

Compare that to Maya, Allison, Keira, Ann S...

Either he has very little support, or the supporters he does have aren't convinced enough to put their hand in their pockets.

Not that I blame them. Owns TWO apartments in central London, and instead of selling one he gets out the begging bowl.

Regarding the nonsense about cultural differences - with specific reference to Niger - Jessen and Harrop studiously ignore two facts: (1) that cultural norms are largely decided by men for the benefit of men to the detriment of women and children and (2) in many countries homosexuality is seen is as unnatural and homosexual acts are illegal.

I too have been reading the full judgement. Hugely impressed with the judge's forensic detective work. I particularly like pint 72. (My bold)

"[72] When one listens to the accounts of domestic life in these two podcasts, there is not a hint or suggestion that these accounts are fictitious and the spontaneous conversational nature of the exchanges and, indeed, the general tenor of the podcasts certainly give the clear impression that these accounts are based on Dr Jessen’s recent personal experiences during lockdown. If these accounts are, indeed, entirely fictitious then it is clear that Dr Jessen is very skilled at spontaneously and casually inventing and recounting quite complex and entirely fictitious accounts relating to his personal life. However, even when pressed, neither Dr Jessen nor his counsel would accept that these accounts were lies. They were invented but they were the product of “artistic licence” in the context of being contained in podcasts which were intended to entertain. I do not, for one minute, accept this explanation or submission. Having carefully considered his evidence and his demeanour whilst giving that evidence, I am convinced that Dr Jessen has deliberately chosen to describe these accounts as fiction in a forlorn attempt to persuade the court that he was not residing with his partner in Walpole House during the time he states he was living with his parents in Fulham. It is not the account in the podcasts that is made up. It is the account in the witness box."

Point 72

@teawamutu

Jessen has raised just over £2,000 in six days.

Compare that to Maya, Allison, Keira, Ann S...

Either he has very little support, or the supporters he does have aren't convinced enough to put their hand in their pockets.

Not that I blame them. Owns TWO apartments in central London, and instead of selling one he gets out the begging bowl.

Exactly. How about he considers paying for his mistake himself in the first instance, instead of his first port of call being his fans bailing him out.

Jessen is one of those people, like Donald Trump, who should stay away from twitter for their own protection.

Before I came out as GC on twitter and started seeing and taking note of tweets outside the Archers bubble, I sadly hadn't realised the importance of saving a screenshot. However I recall very well two instances of Dr C for which I alas do not have the proof.

On one occasion he cheerfully announced his delight at diagnosing a syphilitic chancre during his morning clinic earlier that day. It was pointed out to him that his private patient, should they look at his Dr's twitter, may be less pleased to see such a tweet, which could also be identifying to anyone who knew the patient and that they were visiting Dr C that day. He airily dismissed all who warned him of the inappropriateness of the tweet. Can't remember if or when he deleted it.

On another occasion regarding a court case which went against a couple who refused a double room at their B&B to a gay couple he invited his followers to post some dog poo (I paraphrase from memory, he might have used the emoji) through their letter box. His twitter stream went a bit mad and a little while later his PR people or channel 4 must have been in touch as he deleted and assured everyone he had meant it metaphorically.

This case has been a long time coming and (although obviously the judgement is specific this case) also gives vindication to many other people who have been on the receiving end of his arrogant disdain.

@AlfonsoTheMango

Regarding the nonsense about cultural differences - with specific reference to Niger - Jessen and Harrop studiously ignore two facts: (1) that cultural norms are largely decided by men for the benefit of men to the detriment of women and children and (2) in many countries homosexuality is seen is as unnatural and homosexual acts are illegal.

Both excellent points.

And he should be frequently reminded of that second one.

Arrogant git
Can't stand him- or his views 🤬

Fanny has already pasted my fave bit, If these accounts are, indeed, entirely fictitious then it is clear that Dr Jessen is very skilled at spontaneously and casually inventing and recounting quite complex and entirely fictitious accounts relating to his personal life.
Did anyone else note that the evidence that rebutted his “I had no idea, my dog and/or my parents’ dog ate my phone and tv and post and computer so I have no idea about events in the world” defence included his tweet about Quincy Bell, and later GRA reform?

I was greatly amused to see that interacting with Maugham played a part in Jessen's downfall.

So many great cameos. And I must say I when I dive into a libel judgment I don't expect to encounter the sentence

I am convinced that he was much more involved in the David Icke campaign than he is now prepared to admit to.

I loved the part where the judge said Jessen didn’t know what the Striesand effect is.

I was greatly amused to see that interacting with Maugham played a part in Jessen's downfall.

Perhaps Maugham could send a donation? Or maybe a back office job at Good Law project - Medical advisor?

There are some absolute gems in the Judgement:

the explanation is very peculiar to say the least
wholly unsatisfactory and unconvincing
no cogent explanation
I simply do not accept this evidence
very skilled at spontaneously and casually inventing and recounting quite complex and entirely fictitious accounts
for the avoidance of doubt I make it clear that I am certain that I have not been told the truth
so far fetched and unlikely they can be firmly discounted
unedifying task trying to determine which lie Dr Jessen has told
In which case he is lying to the Court
irrespective of which lie he is telling

When a Judge makes those remarks in a Judgement you are toast and very burnt toast at that. Very much a case of "Liar, liar, pants on fire!"

unedifying task trying to determine which lie Dr Jessen has told

I love this remark

@UhtredRagnarson

unedifying task trying to determine which lie Dr Jessen has told

I love this remark

Me too, it's just so damning.

@AlfonsoTheMango

Regarding the nonsense about cultural differences - with specific reference to Niger - Jessen and Harrop studiously ignore two facts: (1) that cultural norms are largely decided by men for the benefit of men to the detriment of women and children and (2) in many countries homosexuality is seen is as unnatural and homosexual acts are illegal.

Yes. And re point 2, some counties are barbaric enough to make homosexuality not just a crime but one punishable by death, including stoning to death.

Or in some places it’s the cultural norm for “vigilantes” to throw gay men off high buildings, and for the authorities to turn a blind eye to it.

I cannot see Jessen (or Harrop) defending these abhorrent practices or saying that unequivocally condemning and protesting them is western cultural imperialism or whatever the shite those two came out with was.

There’s something so very off about the way all his focus was on the men in this scenarios. His interest was in whether you can call them paedophiles in the traditional sense, when the culture they live in enables and supports their behaviour, almost as an abstract academic question. (And Harrop’s too.)

And what’s completely absent is any concern or compassion for the girls being forcibly married, raped and impregnated before their bodies are mature enough to cope with it. It’s like they just don’t feature as human beings in this intellectually stimulating conundrum.

Quite chilling really.

Tied in with his absolutely extraordinary decision to lie and lie and lie (and lie badly!), it does make you wonder what is going on there.