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how to help? please...

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pharlap · 25/09/2004 20:40

Hi. I'm new to Mumsnet and just wanted some advice really. My sister is on anti-d's and so is her dh. He took a turn for the worse over the last week and I just wondered if anyone has been in the same situation? I don't live near them so I'm not sure how to help. I do phone but it's awkward as BIL doesn't want anyone to know and thinks that only my sister and his sister know about this even though my family know (hope that makes sense). So it's not always easy for my sister to talk openly on the phone. How do they get throught this? Do they need to come to terms with the fact that depression is going to be a constant in there lives or is it sort-outable (sorry I know that's not a word!)?

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vict17 · 25/09/2004 23:18

Yes their ds was planned. I don't think he's in the right mental frame of mind to be thinking that his counseller is the one for him just yet but hopefully soon?

MTS · 25/09/2004 23:18

hi vict17. It sounds as if there may be some difficulties in your BIL's life (possibly issues with his parents) that run quite deep, and the counselling touched a raw nerve. Certainly some types of counselling can be quite demoralising if you are depressed, if they take you back to a bad situation in your life, without really providing you with the tools to come back up again from that experience. It sounds that if the counselling provoked such an extreme reaction that it's not the right thing for him at the moment for whatever reason. I would second MIAM's comments on cognitive behaviour therapy - although your BIL's past experiences will be relevant in terms of providing a therapist/counsellor with a history/an idea of what makes him tick, CBT it won't involve him wallowing in his past, so may still be helpful for him. A psychiatric nurse can provide counselling/cognitive therapy, so it sounds good that he is getting that level of support at home at the moment.

In terms of your sister - it sounds like she a very rough time with the birth and post-natal after care, and as if she may have been quite traumatised by it. You/your sister may find it useful to look at the birth trauma association web-site - www.birthtraumassociation.org.uk. It may help your sister if she could ask to have a meeting with the senior midwife and discuss issues/anxieties surrounding the birth; if she seems keen to talk about the birth and time in hospital it is probably best to let her get her experiences off her chest.

In terms of dealing with your sister:- her self esteem is probably extremely low at the moment; compliment her on any little achievement, on her mothering skills etc, and, if possible, encourage her to get out - to baby massage classes/mother and toddler group, or even just to pop out and get the paper to get a bit of fresh air. Also resist the urge to tell her what a wonderful time she is missing by being depressed; "common-sense" comments like that aren't any help - if it was merely a case of reasoning herself out of it, she wouldn't have a problem! maybe acknowledge the stresses of motherhood/first year/first baby etc.

hope something in this lengthy ramble is of use to you

MUMINAMILLION · 25/09/2004 23:19

I'm sure of it. With all your support, he will get the help he needs.

unicorn · 25/09/2004 23:23

A very useful post MTS,you must actually have some RL experience of these areas?

Must get some sleep now.
I wish you and your family well Vict17.
keep posting.

vict17 · 25/09/2004 23:27

Thanks MTS - the bit on how to help my sister is extremely encouraging. She tends to tell me how well I'm doing in comparison to her whereas I'm thinking how well she's doing in comparison to me! BTW our ds's are only a few weeeks apart in age

MTS · 25/09/2004 23:42

Unicorn - I had depression and OCD whilst PG, took Prozac from 30 weeks PG, and am hopefully nearly recovered, but my self-confidence has definitely taken a real battering. I had a real battle to get adequate treatment for my OCD - my GP was useless - wouldn't refer me to a psychiatrist (as she thought a psych wouldn't prescribe ADs, but would only say I should have counselling!) but fortunately the hospital obstretricians were fab and got me a referal to a psychiatrist, and I found myself a CBT therapist privately (even urgent cases in our area would take months to get an appointment!) My son's birth wasn't straightforward but I felt that it was dealt with very well by the staff; oddly enough I think my experiences of post-natal care and breastfeeding going very pearshaped have had a greater effect on me than the birth. ah well enough about me,but thank you very much for your interest.

MTS · 26/09/2004 00:17

and i've killed the thread stone dead with my confessional there(!)

MUMINAMILLION · 26/09/2004 00:23

No you have not - I will! MTS, I would appreciate any info you could give me on CBT, as I am just a novice.

MTS · 26/09/2004 00:35

i'll post something on CBT tomorrow morning MIAM. tho my experience will be a bit different from anyone elses coz of the OCD side of things

essbee · 26/09/2004 00:52

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