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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

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ItRainsItPours · 01/01/2025 10:30

All welcome!

Supportive thread for setting goals including self care and fasting, and chat in between.

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loveyouradvice · 22/02/2025 12:37

I am intrigued to know others' thoughts on the emotions of shame and pride around how we feel about HOW we eat. How important are they for you? Are there any other emotions you feel as a reaction to how you have eaten?

I feel I'm looking at them through new eyes, not having thought about them much before... while I have, of course, like so many on here, thought a lot about the emotions which trigger overeating - a many and varied bag!!

I recognise how much I enjoy that feeling of pride after eating well in challenging situations, like Christmas or holidays. And that it builds that part of me that believes I can do hard things. Almost like strengthening a muscle.

It expands me, making me feel more open to life and new experiences and more capable in other spheres.

And the shame when I have binged or eaten badly. Sometimes it is not there at all, I can be pragmatic and say that's what happened, it's understandable, just accept and move forward.

But other times, it is SO powerful, a deep and hidden emotion, making me shrink in myself and see myself as a lesser person. Like a couple of days ago, when I ate unconsciously (especially chocolate) in a scenario when it would have been so easy not to do so. It's connected to my thinking that I had mastered a powerful new skill and, by not using it, I had let myself down. While pragmatically I know that learning a new skill is often two steps forward and one step back.

And it is connected to what will others think of me, just hoovering up chocolate... while the reality is I suspect no one really noticed. Though of course there was that shame and fear when I had crept into the kitchen mid-afternoon and scoffed some delicious stuff, hoping that no one would come in while I was doing so....

ItRainsItPours · 22/02/2025 13:02

I have observed thin people and been good enough friends with some to quiz them. I think in situations like yours they hoover everything up that they want so probably wouldn’t judge you for doing the same. The difference seems to be that they have a good routine of eating normally. So if I have a week away, eat tonnes etc I then come home and find it is very difficult to eat well. Thin people just seem to not be bothered to buy or eat all the crap day to day. They also mostly seem to have exercise engrained into their daily routine so only miss if very unwell or extreme weather. For example enjoying the cycle to work or going to the gym in lunch hour.
I think unfortunately walking around all flabby like I do means lots of thin people judge me. I have given up caring.
I’ve definitely also felt that shame and regret from over eating in the past. Again I have mostly given that up as it is so unproductive. I think being able to say that was yesterday and today is a fresh page is very useful. What you don’t want is a downward spiral where you continue eating badly as you feel bad you did it last time.
I haven’t weighed yet after my time away but had a lovely healthy lunch with lots of salad and fruit. Most of the half term snacks are gone and we are all getting ready for the new half term.

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Clearingaspace · 22/02/2025 13:18

@loveyouradvice i hope you are better soon 💜 I definitely know that feeling of furtively eating a bit extra and hoping no one catches me. I definitely enjoy eating by myself more - or pre pre portioned meals in restaurants where you can’t be judged. To be honest slim people I know probably take a really decent plateful at buffet type scenarios without caring how it looks but then they STOP; I take less initially but then graze for longer as still hungry or just want to try all the food.

i agree with you about slim friends @ItRainsItPours - it’s like they can enjoy unhealthy food but also know when to stop. Maybe the shame is partly because I am embarrassed that my off switch doesn’t work? To be honest I am also annoyed about it and know there are lots of biological reasons the off switch isn’t working.

I think some of my shame is down to guilt because I am setting a bad example for my dc but also not protecting myself from ill health later in life. I don’t want to be a burden to my dc esp as their dad has a disability.

I feel ashamed right now as I am right back to where I started at over 200lb and apparently no ability to stop it climbing up! I am confused about whether fasting is healthy or not and worried about links to heart damage - but clearly being 5ft4 and 200lbs isn’t healthy so there is that! I think @StealthilyEmbraceTheSilkyBeans once said paralysis by analysis- that is where I am right now.

sorry that was a rambling jumble post!

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HarpQuartet · 23/02/2025 06:30

@StealthilyEmbraceTheSilkyBeans can I come and live in your brain, it sounds very interesting and a lot of fun!

As for the rest - shame and what not - pound to a penny it'll be comments made by an adult when we were children. If you have spare money and can afford therapy, that's my recommendation. It's not a fun experience but (with the right therapist) the learning and clearing can be life-changing.

Eagle-eyed viewers will notice that eating "normally" is not exactly a nut I've managed to crack, but therapy has helped un-mess other aspects of my life, and my eating is mostly something that doesn't distress me any more.

loveyouradvice · 23/02/2025 12:14

@HarpQuartet This is SO good to here... I love that it has un-messed most of your life. Sadly I've not yet had success with that route, and fully recognise that finding the right therapist is key - and I am ready to try again.

And wow @StealthilyEmbraceTheSilkyBeans Loving that description of your eating cake - totally fascinating! And how glorious not to have shame.
Reading your observations, I realise the shame mainly happens when others are around, and sometimes when they are not. But when alone and I've eaten something I didn't mean to, I tend to feel rather foolish and a bit annoyed knowing (afterwards) that it wasn't worth it (usually) and is not who I am and what I stand for (now): someone who has power over food, who eats consciously for both pleasure and nourishing my body: yup, I'm learning and it's a long and challenging journey.

I so recognise the temporary soothing of overeating, and am beginning to be able to tune into it more while I am overeating, which sometimes enables me to feel more soothed, to eat more slowly and to eat a bit less than I normally would. I have far fewer "just hoover up everything in sight, even when it no longer gives me pleasure nor soothes me" moments than I used to - but they are still there, and can pop up so unexpectedly.

Absolutely @HarpQuartet I can see the roots for me in my childhood, and can remember what was said to me and by whom on so many occasions.

@ItRainsItPours That for me too was a huge breakthrough - being able to say that's what I did yesterday, today is a new day.... together with feeling no guilt or emotion when my weight goes up on the scales: I can genuinely now see it as just data, and weighing daily helps me stay (or get back) on track. And there is gentle pleasure when it goes down, so somehow I'm getting the best of both worlds in my reactions to numbers on the scales. I wonder if I might be able to use that elsewhere with my eating... hmm, one to mull over.

loveyouradvice · 23/02/2025 12:17

Well there are definitely advantages to food poisoning.. I have felt very rough, but am now almost recovered and able to enjoy being with my friends on holiday again...

SW (2 days before travelling): 11.0.6
CW: 11.0.0 .. will be interesting to see if this goes up as I eat more
GW: 11.3.0 to maintain until I return on Mon 24 Feb

loveyouradvice · 24/02/2025 15:33

Okay... I don't know what I weigh today as DH left early with scales... I'll weigh in and report tomorrow (for my own accountability!!)... and then back to regular Friday weigh-ins with the rest of you.

It's helped enormously coming in here and checking in... making me fully present to what I was (and wasn't) doing. Thank you.

I'm hoping/expecting to be 11.1 or 11.2 tomorrow... let's see.

I've eat the generous side of normal yesterday, and a regular day today.... It feels good to be back in my own house....

HarpQuartet · 24/02/2025 19:06

As the song says, it's very nice to go travelling... But it's so much nicer to go home.

loveyouradvice · 25/02/2025 08:54

Well surprisingly despite eating rather more than intended on Sunday, my weight hasn't moved.

I definitely have my food poisoning to thank rather than my will power. Silver linings...

My challenge now is to maintain this weight for a few weeks - back to Friday check ins on here, and thank you all for enabling me to use this thread for accountability during my first group holiday at my target weight... much emerged, and much to reflect on. My goal this year remains becoming a woman who has power over food, and eats consciously, both for pleasure and health. I'll get there .. small step by small step

SW (2 days before travelling): 11.0.6
CW: 11.0.0
GW: 11.3.0 to maintain until I return on Mon 24 Feb

HarpQuartet · 25/02/2025 16:16

Well done @loveyouradvice that's a worthy goal indeed. Are you feeling 100% now?

loveyouradvice · 26/02/2025 10:15

Almost @HarpQuartet - thanks!!

How are you doing??

HarpQuartet · 26/02/2025 19:24

Glad you're nearly there.

I've been missing being with friends (odd working pattern last few weeks) so was very grateful to have a catch-up with two friends today 🥰

I haven't really been doing my happy eating window, it's been topsy turvy recently, but will be able to look after myself better tomorrow.

IDareSay · 28/02/2025 10:35

Made a small amount of progress in February:

SW: 72.5 kg beginning January (I was as high as 74.9kg last year!)
GW1: 70 kg end January (achieved and reset to 69kg)
CW: 67.4kg (5.1 kg lost in total, 1.1kg in Feb) 28th Feb
GW2: 65 kg end March (in time for weekend away)
GW3: 60kg end June then assess next steps.

I am doing 16:8, 2 meals a day, lower carbs, trying to pack in protein and veg, and hitting 2l water per day.

February has been a bit difficult, for various reasons, but helped by a bit of a whoosh towards the end with a total loss of 1.1kg. I had hoped to be under 67kg by end of February, but happy to be in the 67's if not quite at target.

Target for end of March is to be in the 65's.

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loveyouradvice · 28/02/2025 12:22

I hope the sun helps you unmuddle @StealthilyEmbraceTheSilkyBeans ... I know you can do it!

@IDareSay Looking good - it is great to read of your progress and fab that you are on track for June!

Back to my regular check-in after an up and down holiday (aided unexpectedly by food poisoning):

SW: 14.2
CW: 10.13.4
GW: Was 11.2 ... not quite ready to commit to 10.7.....

I think I am changing my GW, knowing it will help bring my cholesterol down a tad... I am very hesitant as you can see... My main goal at the moment is to increase exercise, and get a fitter, tighter body. Alongside that I would like to lose 1-2lbs a month...so I am going to give that a go, without detracting from the celebration of making goal weight and loving wearing new (and old) clothes that fit!

HarpQuartet · 28/02/2025 14:00

Nice progress @IDareSay 👏🏻

@StealthilyEmbraceTheSilkyBeans I hope your muddle unmuddles itself - @Clearingaspace has a username that makes me feel calmer just thinking about it! I wonder if you're experiencing a "wood for the trees" type of thing? My muddled state is often something like that, where it just feels like everything's too much.

@loveyouradvice looking at your summary there, I hope you take some satisfaction in what you've achieved. Yes, weight loss, but also addressing long-standing habits with curiosity and being "on your own side".

As for me, I think I'm the same weight as last week and @loveyouradvice has reminded me that not every goal needs to (or even should) centre around food. Here and now I'm committing to 5000+ steps five days this week. It's shocking but I've hardly left my house some days, so that would be good to redress.

loveyouradvice · 28/02/2025 14:44

I'm cheering you on @HarpQuartet - That's a fabulous goal. When's your first day of the five for walking 5,000+ steps?

HarpQuartet · 28/02/2025 15:10

I'm going to cheat and start today as I've already done 13,000+ and am not home yet 🤣

ItRainsItPours · 28/02/2025 15:57

Hello fellow Friday check in people. I have just started fasting again as the stomach pain has eased. That said I tried reducing the ppi medication and it started to come back so need to keep on that for now. I have lost the half term weight but not really fully back to fasting yet.

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ItRainsItPours · 28/02/2025 18:40

I think GW is goal weight.
I have a GCSE student in the house so get the stress of that. Though for me it is almost the opposite of your issue. My ds is a lazy little who seems completely unfazed by the fact he has life changing exams to study for. So very little work going on when exams are only months away. He is bright so will probably get enough to progress to A levels anyway but he could do so well if he pulled his finger out. Then I will have it all over again in two years time when it really will matter. You are right though, it is hard to concentrate on self care when there are stresses outside your control.

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