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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Anyone else zero calorie fasting?

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SausageCrush · 07/01/2021 21:57

I began this 15 months ago as I found eating 500 calories too much of a faff.
I only do it once a week and it really suits me, but know it isn't for everyone.
I drink black coffee, peppermint tea and lots of water.
Just wondering if there's anyone else out there who does the same?

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maxelly · 08/01/2021 09:58

How long do you do this for? When I do fast days I don't eat breakfast or lunch, sometimes I have a splash of milk in a coffee but no more. I do eat 500 cals of dinner though, sometimes it ends up being a 24-25 hour 0 cal fast if I've had dinner at say 7pm the day before and then have my fast day dinner at 8pm, but I have to say I'm pretty hungry by that point and can't imagine it would feel too good to go to bed on absolutely nothing if that's what you do? Also I quite often feel a bit rough the morning after a fast day, not sure if it's dehydration or what but it goes away if I have something to eat, do you experience that?

What is it you find a hassle about eating the 500 cals? Is it the calorie counting because I sympathize there, it can be a PITA but you can use ready meals if that's easier for you, or eating something would be better than nothing so if you don't want to cook, something like yoghurt and fruit, crackers and cheese, a sandwich, some cereal etc would be fine - sometimes when dieting we get caught up in the idea all food needs to be 'healthy' (not that the things above are unhealthy per se but probably not as balanced as a home-cooked meal) but it's definitely not healthy at all to go without food for 36 hours + on a regular basis!

Candyfloss99 · 08/01/2021 10:43

Yes I do not eat anything on a down day and only drink black tea or water. It works out that I do two 40 hour fasts a week.

SausageCrush · 08/01/2021 16:36

I do mine all day on Monday, so from the last meal on Sunday (6 or 7 pm) through to Tuesday morning when I start with a large milky coffee then get onto the food at around midday, so it's probably around 36 hours in total.
It has been very successful for me - I lost forty pounds in 12 months and seem to be able to keep it off (though it's still early days.)
Hunger pangs come and go, you just distract yourself and keep busy. I sometimes get a mild headache by evening and often feel colder than usual on a fast day, but think these are a small price to pay.
Candy floss are you fasting to lose weight or to maintain? And how long have you been doing it for?

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Candyfloss99 · 09/01/2021 08:34

I do the same as you. From Sunday night to Tuesday lunchtime and again from Wednesday night to Friday lunchtime. I'm doing it up maintain. I already lost 3 stone. I eat whatever I want when I'm eating.

Candyfloss99 · 09/01/2021 08:35

I've been doing it for 3 years. I sometimes change my day or don't do it if I'm off work etc. It's flexible.

SausageCrush · 09/01/2021 11:41

Hi Candyfloss,
Thanks for the reply and congratulations on your weight loss.
I've decided to do two a week in January and see how I get on. I must say it does get easier with practice!

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Candyfloss99 · 11/01/2021 11:33

Yes it does, doesn't bother me at all now not eating at all on a Monday.

SausageCrush · 11/01/2021 13:41

Looks like it's just the two of us Wink

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MajorMujer · 11/01/2021 13:45

@SausageCrush are you going to fast solidly for 2weeks?

SausageCrush · 11/01/2021 16:55

Major - no, absolutely not! Where did get that from? I said I currently fast once a week, but in January I'm doing it twice a week.
Do you fast?

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ListeningQuietly · 11/01/2021 20:12

Sausage
I have many many times done 23 hours without eating at all
but am then very aware of my micronutrients in the next meal

BarryWhiteIsMyBrother · 11/01/2021 20:23

Twice I fasted for a week - no food at all. Just herbal tea and water. Not to lose weight but because I was so stressed I didn't want to eat. I didn't lose any weight. Now I'm calorie counting, 1,200/day and it's going well. I'm a slim 10 now, targeting a size 8.

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maxelly · 12/01/2021 15:21

Hi Seychelles I appreciate you've asked the OP who may have a different view but just to reply to your question. Intermittent fasting diets of various types/plans can work well for all kinds of weight loss, large or small. If you are already a healthy weight or near healthy weight loss will probably take longer and be more difficult but that doesn't make fasting itself unsuitable, IYSWIM?

What I will say is that the type of fasting that is being discussed on this thread where people go 24 hours + with no food at all is quite an advanced/extreme type of IF, it clearly works for some but I don't think it would be suitable or sustainable for many people, particularly if you are not used to fasting, particularly particularly if you suffer from psychological issues around food, disordered eating or eating disorders.

If you are interested in trying IF, I would look into one of the gentler kinds at least at first, e.g. 16:8 (where you fast for 16 hours a day, daily, then eat 'normally' for the other 8 hours, i.e. effectively skipping breakfast or dinner) or 5:2 (where you have 2 500 cal fast days per week and eat 'normally' the rest of the time. There's also the Fast800/blood sugar diet which combines fasting and low-carb....There are long running threads for each of these on this board, they can be a bit intimidating as they are long but there are some very supportive posters and useful information and resources so I'd really recommend checking out if you want to know more!

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maxelly · 12/01/2021 16:59

Hi Seychelles, def not an expert lol just someone that used to be a bit fat and now is a bit less so, but I def have to still really watch my weight or it creeps back alarmingly quickly Blush. We sound quite similar in terms of size and activity levels, I couldn't get on with low carb either, I just like my carbs too much I think!

For me what does work is boring but its basically calorie restriction, I just used MyFitnessPal for quite a long time and ate around 1200 cals daily and did lose weight on that albeit slowly, I allowed myself to eat pretty much what types of food I wanted so long within it so long as it came in at no more than the 1200 cals. To make that not a miserable permanently hungry experience it sometimes was I focused on healthy, home cooked food, sensible controlled portions, lots of fruit and veg, minimal alcohol and treats.

Getting into 5:2/fasting was just a natural progression of that for me, I was increasingly finding having no more than 1200 cals a day every day just such a grind and I do like to have the occasional meal out or treat which is hard to fit into that system and there can then be the temptation that once you've 'blown' a day anyway to just think 'fuck it' and carry on eating and eating. I find a fasting system easier to manage, your main calorie deficit comes from the 2 fast days, and so you can eat more 'normally' when you aren't fasting, 'normal' doesn't mean loads of junk, takeaways etc but eating to your TDEE or natural eating requirements so in theory you shouldn't feel hungry those days. I find fasting encourages healthy habits such as making sure you don't mistake thirst for hunger, mindful eating rather than thoughtless gobbling and eating proper planned meals rather than lots of snacks and things on the go (ofc you can do all these things without fasting too!). On your non fast days you can have the odd 'treat' day where you go out for a meal, eat well over your TDEE and still lose weight which is a miracle to me Grin

I would recommend for you to look into 5:2 or 16:8 and see if it feels like something you could do? It's definitely not for everyone but it works well for me. I've never been a big breakfast eater or daytime snacker so those were things I felt I could drop without too much difficulty, and actually it's then not too much of a stretch to not eat lunch on fast days meaning I just have one meal a day those days. It helps to understand what kind of foods satisfy you and don't cause you to feel hungry again a few hours later, I too love carbs, but 500 cals worth of pasta or bread really isn't much of a meal (I could inhale that in 5 mins and be looking for more Blush Blush ) and certainly wouldn't be enough for a whole day, whereas 500 cals of mainly veg and lean protein, while still a modest meal actually looks like a lot on the plate, takes a while to eat and digest and can be quite satisfying. I'm not promising that if you do 5:2 you'll never feel hungry, I'm always a bit skeptical of diets that make that claim, my body always grumbles and protests at losing its fats stores, but on 5:2 I've found the hunger is limited and manageable providing you do it right...

In a broader sense I think it's helpful to understand your TDEE (look up a calculator online) and what that looks like in terms of daily food and portions, it may surprise you to know what 'normal' is, the myth that everyone needs 2000 cals a day to survive is pretty unhelpful for those of us that are small, old and not especially active! Keeping a really honest food diary for a week or 2 can be helpful to identify any hidden calorie bombs or bad habits you may have gotten into (for me it was evening sweet treats on the sofa in front of the telly) and before embarking on a radical diet plan or overhaul maybe start by making smaller sustainable changes, things like introducing alcohol free days, reducing your snacking, replacing junk with healthier alternatives, things like that?

Good luck!

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