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Sis plans to cheat system?!

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PandaEyed13 · 29/05/2020 20:49

I had no idea where to post this!

Long story short - my sister has 2 children with her boyfriend, they both work and receive universal credit child element for the first 2 children. She's desperate for a 3rd baby but cannot afford one, I think the desire for a 3rd comes from having 2 boys and being desperate to try for a girl. The combined wages don't stretch to it and you can't claim child element on universal credit for a 3rd child.

So she's got it in her head that they will just start trying for another one - and should it happen - then her partner will claim for the third child as the first 2 children are claimed for in her name. It gets vague after that as to whether they'll make out that they're no longer together and he has custody of the 3rd child or what!

Erm...where to start?! Wtf right?! It's all hypothetical at this point but can they even actually do that?! It's benefit fraud right? If they do this, she will have to move out with her 2 older ones and leave the baby with dad surely?

Rock and hard place, I'm torn between not wanting her to get caught if they do this (sister, love her, she's family, etc) and wanting to shop her in myself if she does!

Funny thing is they're not low class, benefit scrounging type people! They're a gentle, well spoken couple with lovely children and go to salsa class and dinner parties! It's like they want this 3rd baby that badly that it's at any means necessary!

As I said, it's all hypothetical now but as far as I'm aware they're actively trying for that 3rd and I can't get it off my mind and the google search results on this type of thing are almost non existent!

I mean, we'd all love to have things love but it's tough!

Does anyone know if they can actually do this because it's really hacked me off, I've really seen my arse about it! We've all told her to see sense but so far to no avail and with siblings, the older you get and the more you drift apart as you go into the world and make your own lives, the less you feel like theirs is any of your business!

xx

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Pumpertrumper · 29/05/2020 20:54

I have no idea if it’s doable but it shouldn’t be.
It’s cheeky as hell.
You’re totally right, we all want things we can’t have. They can have as many children as they want but committing benefit fraud to fund it is ridiculous.

AvoidingRealHumans · 29/05/2020 21:05

It could probably work. I know someone who while on the tax credit system had her 3rd baby, transferred the child benefit and tax credits for the oldest child to her mum (the childrens nan) and said she had care of her and then her mum gave her the money. She then could claim for the newest baby.

Boomclaps · 29/05/2020 21:15

that won’t work.
They’ll all be on a joint family claim.

ArriettyJones · 29/05/2020 21:17

Funny thing is they're not low class, benefit scrounging type people! They're a gentle, well spoken couple with lovely children and go to salsa class and dinner parties!

Say what? Confused

pinkazing · 29/05/2020 21:18

What if she has another boy wool they just keep going?

pinkazing · 29/05/2020 21:19

Will not wool Grin

LillianBland · 29/05/2020 21:22

Funny thing is they're not low class, benefit scrounging type people! They're a gentle, well spoken couple with lovely children and go to salsa class and dinner parties!

Fucking low class, benefit scrounging people, with their big TVs and a free goats.

3LittleMonkeyz · 29/05/2020 21:23

The only way this would work is for them to split up, live in separate households and not have neighbours who dog them in if they seem to couple-y (or school staff, Facebook friends, etc.) However, even though this world mean they would Get more in benefits their outgoings would also increase, so they would probably still be worse off. And living in two separate homes, kids would have to be split across two homes too, living a lie, at risk of going to prison, etc.

IMO they would be better just being poorer together if they are that desperate to have another baby, either being worse off or finding a way to make more money.

Thisismytimetoshine · 29/05/2020 21:23

Funny thing is they're not low class, benefit scrounging type people!
They're planning to scrounge benefits they know full well they're not entitled to Confused
Maybe they should stop the fucking salsa lessons and dinner parties and fund their own family?! That's what actual classy people would do.

TitsInAbsentia · 29/05/2020 21:25

But people will know...and it will only take one pissed off person to grass them up.

Incrediblytired · 29/05/2020 21:27

Well it’s fraud and it usually catches up with people but it might not. Really they should get a side hustle.

user1471453601 · 29/05/2020 21:31

"Gentle well spoken people, who do salsa", and try to defraud others?

WildfirePonie · 29/05/2020 21:35

go to salsa class and dinner parties!

So if they stop these hobbies they will have more money towards a 3rd child?

Mmsnet101 · 29/05/2020 21:36

It's fraud and they will probably get away with it to start with, but it usually catches up with the fraudsters so they then need to pay back the money and are in a worse off position. Its not like you can give the kid back once you get found out.

They need to cut outgoings /earn more etc like everyone else.

Spillinteas · 29/05/2020 21:38

Fucking low class, benefit scrounging people, with their big TVs and a free goats

😂😂😂 comment of the night for me!

MottTheHoople · 23/02/2021 14:56

Ah, but we all know what she means!

Fucking low class, benefit scrounging people, with their big TVs and a free goats

😂😂😂 comment of the night for me!

Palavah · 23/02/2021 15:00

Funny thing is they're not low class, benefit scrounging type people! They're a gentle, well spoken couple with lovely children and go to salsa class and dinner parties!

Shock Shock

Bet they don't even have a flatscreen TV or Sky

KarensChoppyBob · 23/02/2021 15:10

Yep they're bloody low life scum those ones in poverty with their big TVs, must be getting away with far more than the snobbish, landowning, wannabe aristo wanker bankers with nanny issues ...

AnneLovesGilbert · 23/02/2021 15:13

You’re expending a lot of energy into this when she’s not even pregnant.

Maybe take up salsa to fill your free time.

Cissyandflora · 23/02/2021 15:16

I cannot believe a salsa dancer would countenance this.

MarmedukeDuke · 23/02/2021 15:16

Zombie thread.

Cissyandflora · 23/02/2021 15:17

@TitsInAbsentia

But people will know...and it will only take one pissed off person to grass them up.
And whoooo will that beeeeeee?
KarensChoppyBob · 23/02/2021 15:18

Argh and I rose to it 🤦🏻‍♀️.

Unreasonabubble · 23/02/2021 15:19

This thread is 10 months old...Hmm Hmm

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