Sick pay for Music teacher

[WynkenBlynkenandNod]

What arrangements do you have with your child's music teacher for sick pay ? I've never discussed it before with DD's teacher and she's now been off sick for 4 weeks, hopefully back tonight.

Full if less than 24h notice.

Half full cost if less than 2 weeks notice. So school trips are OK because we know in advance.

Not sure about long term time off. Sometimes if teachers know in advance they can rearrange for another pupil in time slot as a one off so you don't have to pay.

With another teacher we pay termly and as far as I know there is no refund. Unless it is the teacher who can't make the lesson for some reason.

Sorry, I didn't make this at all clear, it is the teacher who is off sick, not DD ! I'm wondering if I pay her sick pay if if so do I pay her the full amount or half or something else ?

Not sure. Wouldn't have thought you would have to pay. My DCs music teachers are self employed so have to arrange own sickpay/insurance. My DH was self employed for a time(not as music teacher!). It is one of the problems.....no work no pay.

Maybe someone else will come along who has a different arrangement.

Many thanks notagrannyyet. I feel I ought to pay something but was hoping that half pay might be OK and not too stingy.

Any other opinions ?

I'm DD's music teacher will be more than happy with that. DH would have been!

Sorry missed out 'sure'

I wouldn't pay anything - she's not your employee. I'm self-employed and if I'm ill, that's my own look-out.

also wouldn't pay - I don't pay childminder if she is sick, and dh - also self employed - isn't paid if he is sick.

I don't think you should pay - you don't employ her you pay her for a service she provides you, and if the service isn't available you shouldn't pay for it.

Goes with the territory of being self-employed.

Thank you all for replying. I could find a million and one things to do with the money at the moment (can't we all!) but I didn't want to be tight as she can't help being ill.

She would probably be astonished and a bit embarassed if you offered any money I would think. I know I would be if a client offered me any sick pay!

I am a music teacher and if I don't hold lessons due to my illness (or other reasons) then I don't expect payment. Being self-employed, if I don't work, I don't/can't charge - it's a bummer sometimes!

why would you pay her?! you aren't her employer. she is self employed presumably. you pay her for a service and she isn't doing it.

Right I shall listen to you all then ! That has just sorted out how I am going to pay for my Dad's partner's 60th Birthday present and babysitter for wedding we need to attend. Thank you all very much indeed.

PMT/menopausal induced guilt or something I think ruddynorah !

Me too Wynken!

I don't charge for my illness. I always charge for the pupils illness - unless it's a broken arm or leg and therefore I won't see them for a few weeks.

I would check the ISM to see what is the norm in the UK, but if you have no contract - you don't have to pay for a service you did not receive.

I wouldn't expect to pay. DD's piano teacher is away on holiday for the next 3 weeks and AFAIK we don't pay for that. He also doesn't work school holidays and we don't pay for that either.

ISM contracts say that if the teacher is absent, no fee is applicable. If the pupil is absent without sufficient notice (usually 48 hours), then a fee applies.