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Autumn / Winter 2025 Music

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northerngoldilocks · 31/08/2025 12:39

Time for a new thread in time for the new school term!

Come and talk about music lessons, choosing instruments, exams, auditions, specialist schools, orchestras or whatever other music activities are going on. Everyone is welcome, from those with total beginners to those whose children are studying music at advanced levels. Ask for advice or share successes or struggles.

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TreeAtMyWindow · 14/11/2025 14:08

Diddlydays · 12/11/2025 11:08

Thanks for checking. I had a feeling it was mid November but if they are still auditioning then yes we wouldn't know. There must be thousands of applications. Our chances are very slim

Are the odds astronomical? DD has hers coming up at the end of the month, and I couldn't find any information at all about how many places are available in the choirs or how many auditions they're holding.

northerngoldilocks · 14/11/2025 14:12

timetablechaos · 14/11/2025 14:04

Has anyone else had an email inviting their child on the NYO Inspire residential in February half term?

No- DS got offered a flute day at half term again but he couldn’t do it as we were away - looks like that’s it for this year!

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Soundofshuna · 14/11/2025 14:29

Checking in after a long gap. Younger DD did her grade 7 this morning but it was apparently bad. She’s usually a pretty good judge so she may not have passed! She’s also decided to my massive surprise that she wants to audition for our regional youth orchestra. She only does things she wants to do so I have given up suggesting anything to her! She’s decided that she wants to try an orchestra with a different conductor to their director of music.

MockCroc · 14/11/2025 14:43

timetablechaos · 14/11/2025 14:04

Has anyone else had an email inviting their child on the NYO Inspire residential in February half term?

Yes, the woodwind one in Blackpool

Does anyone have experience of them on here? I have seen general chat about the pros of Inspire on a separate thread but was wondering what the Blackpool woodwind one is like? DD enjoyed the day in October

timetablechaos · 14/11/2025 14:51

MockCroc · 14/11/2025 14:43

Yes, the woodwind one in Blackpool

Does anyone have experience of them on here? I have seen general chat about the pros of Inspire on a separate thread but was wondering what the Blackpool woodwind one is like? DD enjoyed the day in October

My DD has been asked to the brass residential but it’s also in Blackpool. I wonder if they will all be at the same accommodation? She’s 13 so no experience of NYO residentials before either.

MockCroc · 14/11/2025 14:53

Mine is 13 as well, not 14 until the end of June. From her Inspire day she was very much one of the youngest. Not quite sure what I think about sending her at the bottom end of the age group. More because of making friends than any other concerns. She's pretty independent and has been away a lot on other residential, but usually within a closer range of ages.

achangeofnameisasgoodasarest · 14/11/2025 15:01

Mine did the Blackpool one a couple of times, and was definitely at the younger end when she started (13). They're in a big hotel and bussed to the school where they do the Inspire stuff. Sometimes there are several 'courses' there at a time, so woodwind, strings, percussion etc.

The tutors can be really great, and it can be enjoyable. DD felt she didn't make friends there as quickly as on other courses, but that might be just her, but the range of ages was noticeable.

timetablechaos · 14/11/2025 15:02

MockCroc · 14/11/2025 14:53

Mine is 13 as well, not 14 until the end of June. From her Inspire day she was very much one of the youngest. Not quite sure what I think about sending her at the bottom end of the age group. More because of making friends than any other concerns. She's pretty independent and has been away a lot on other residential, but usually within a closer range of ages.

You’ve absolutely read my mind there! My DD is also June born. She enjoyed the Unite day but didn’t know anyone and said a lot of the others did. She’s done NCO residentials for the past two years and is going again this year. She has absolutely loved these, but I’m a little worried about the age range of NYO too so I’ll see what she says when she gets home from school.

Londonmummy66 · 14/11/2025 15:08

DD2 had the question "Have you read anything that I wrote in your notebook last week?" She was dumb enough to give an honest answer - the next 40 minutes was exclusively scales and sightreading. Never made that mistake again......

ViolaMa · 14/11/2025 15:10

amr78 · 13/11/2025 13:31

It’s been a little while since I posted on here. Unfortunately, an immensely challenging few months with DS(15) following his Autism and ADHD diagnosis. His music has taken a massive hit as he’s so exhausted from masking in school and the increasing academic demands. We’ve had to cut down to alternate week instrumental lessons and he now barely practices at home. His autism also means that auditioning for high level ensembles is out of the question because they generally involve residentials which he finds difficult socially. Thankfully, he got his grade 8s out of the way in year 9 and 10. Despite these setbacks, he blew us away last night with his beautiful playing in a small ensemble in a school concert. A real ‘wow’ moment. He’s planning to study A-level music and his head of music is being hugely supportive and encouraging. Hopefully, once GCSEs are out of the way, he’ll find the time and mental energy to give to his music again.

My 16yo has the same diagnoses and practice definitely took a back seat during Y11. He only picked up the viola for his weekly lesson and orchestra practice. I mostly kept my own counsel, as I’m aware that practice becomes another demand which is not helpful to a demand avoidant teenager!

However he’s now doing music A level and seems much more enthused. He’s doing his grade 7 early next year and seems to be practising reasonably regularly. Hopefully your ds will come back to his music once he has more time and energy.

MockCroc · 14/11/2025 15:18

timetablechaos · 14/11/2025 15:02

You’ve absolutely read my mind there! My DD is also June born. She enjoyed the Unite day but didn’t know anyone and said a lot of the others did. She’s done NCO residentials for the past two years and is going again this year. She has absolutely loved these, but I’m a little worried about the age range of NYO too so I’ll see what she says when she gets home from school.

I think we will take the same approach. Mine also has the NCO residential next year so NYO is not essential, but longer term it seems a fantastic initiative. Hard decisions! But a nice position to be in. Last year we were hunting around for fun opportunities for her. Knowing my kid she will probably have a strong view of her own!

amr78 · 14/11/2025 15:25

@ViolaMa I’m glad your DS has returned to his music post GCSEs. Yes definitely a lot of tongue biting going on here over lack of practice! Hopefully he’ll find his way back once the stress of year 11 is out of the way.

timetablechaos · 14/11/2025 15:25

MockCroc · 14/11/2025 15:18

I think we will take the same approach. Mine also has the NCO residential next year so NYO is not essential, but longer term it seems a fantastic initiative. Hard decisions! But a nice position to be in. Last year we were hunting around for fun opportunities for her. Knowing my kid she will probably have a strong view of her own!

Very true!

Ubertomusic · 14/11/2025 15:41

Londonmummy66 · 14/11/2025 15:08

DD2 had the question "Have you read anything that I wrote in your notebook last week?" She was dumb enough to give an honest answer - the next 40 minutes was exclusively scales and sightreading. Never made that mistake again......

Oh you reminded me that I now have to find a solution to teachers' comments having moved to various online places where they never get read 🙈 When they were in a tiny paper notebook, DD always had it with her and checked before every practice.

Now the wonders of tech make it impossible as they're not allowed mobile phones in school and do not necessarily carry their laptops to practice rooms (and it's a hassle to open the laptop, find the right app for each set of comments etc).

Looks like we'll have to copy from online on to old school paper, yet another job on top of everything else 🤦‍♀️

horseymum · 14/11/2025 16:02

Mine have done Inspire for the February courses before. All the Feb courses are in Blackpool ( it's cheap presumably), they run them in instrument families, so woodwind, string etc. There will be more than one course at the same time and possibly more than one of each type during the week. I'd say some of the kids know each other because they have been to days or courses before and it's probably easier to get to know people when the numbers are lower. ( Eg fewer bassoons than violins) Mine have enjoyed them, liked the tutors, enjoyed the music. It's different from an orchestra course which is usually longer. They maybe need to be proactive at speaking to people, which isn't always easy. My advice is the same though, take some card games and a big packet of sweets! I think they share a room so there's at least someone to go to breakfast with.
If you have plenty of opportunities you are happy with, it might not be necessary. If your child rarely gets to play with players better than them it's a good opportunity. If they want to apply for the full orchestra in the future, it's a helpful experience to understand how it all works.

MockCroc · 14/11/2025 17:27

horseymum · 14/11/2025 16:02

Mine have done Inspire for the February courses before. All the Feb courses are in Blackpool ( it's cheap presumably), they run them in instrument families, so woodwind, string etc. There will be more than one course at the same time and possibly more than one of each type during the week. I'd say some of the kids know each other because they have been to days or courses before and it's probably easier to get to know people when the numbers are lower. ( Eg fewer bassoons than violins) Mine have enjoyed them, liked the tutors, enjoyed the music. It's different from an orchestra course which is usually longer. They maybe need to be proactive at speaking to people, which isn't always easy. My advice is the same though, take some card games and a big packet of sweets! I think they share a room so there's at least someone to go to breakfast with.
If you have plenty of opportunities you are happy with, it might not be necessary. If your child rarely gets to play with players better than them it's a good opportunity. If they want to apply for the full orchestra in the future, it's a helpful experience to understand how it all works.

Thanks - that's really helpful. I think it sounds like an amazing opportunity and I think Inspire is a super initiative. I've mentioned before that my kids are at a State school with very little music for orchestral instruments and no real orchestra to speak of. My only concern was the age thing but I think she might decide she's up for being brave anyway.

thirdfiddle · 14/11/2025 18:04

She only does things she wants to do so I have given up suggesting anything to her!

Now that rings a lot of bells with my DS. He will do things his friends suggest but not me. I guess it's healthy for teens! Good luck to her with the regional y.o.

ViolaMa · 19/11/2025 11:21

achangeofnameisasgoodasarest · 13/11/2025 10:06

Anyone in here know a lot about music A Level? DD2 has had her first lot of A-Level music tests for predicted grade and was stressing massively about the dictation. Looks like the test was out of 25 and 10 marks were on dictation – which seems to be where you hear an unknown bit of music and write it down.

She's in the top set for music at school (and it's a music specialist school) and doesn't have perfect pitch where most do - and most in her set did GCSE two years early too whereas she joined too late for that.

So she thinks she's rubbish compared with her form, because some people are just getting full marks on dictation with no effort, where she’s getting 6/10.

However, when I looked up the mark scheme for the actual A Level it looks like this is about 4% of the entire A-Level – so I don’t really know why all the tests are on this and none on essays etc. It’s really skewing her perception of what the A Level is about. And she's excellent at essays.

How much does dictation really matter? Anyone know – she will try to get better at it but I’m wondering really how much of her time needs to be spent on this.

I’ve just got round to looking at AQA past papers as I was interested in this too. Dictation is 6 or 7 marks out of the 120 mark paper (itself 40% of the A level). Shame as this is ds’s main strength! The 10 markers that he has been endlessly set make up half the marks, then there is another 30 marker.

achangeofnameisasgoodasarest · 19/11/2025 12:25

@ViolaMa - it's really not much is it! (dd2 is eduqas) But I was amused to read in the examiners report that 'zero on this part of the exam is not uncommon', which makes DD2's 6/10 not sound so very bad!

Soundofshuna · 19/11/2025 16:00

A pass for grade 7 ( only just but still a pass!) Audition pieces still to be uploaded and then she has 5 terms to get her grade 8!! The joy of being a less popular stringed instrument she may not need it to play in auditioned groups..,

northerngoldilocks · 19/11/2025 16:16

Good news @Soundofshuna - very few people ask what mark you got - onwards and upwards!

dd got a pass for gr 7, was really disappointed then a distinction in gr 8. No one asks about 7. More unfortunate for DS who got a distinction in 7 and a merit in 8 as the same applies 😂

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achangeofnameisasgoodasarest · 19/11/2025 19:11

Excellent news @Soundofshuna !

horseymum · 19/11/2025 19:32

Congratulations to @Soundofshuna . That sounds like a good amount of time for grade 8. Mine is currently dabbling more consistently with grade 8 pieces although often not much difference at the upper end and often they play something where one movement is technically grade 6/7 and one is 8, so have often been playing pieces of the list for much longer than they realise. I realised she'd performed a grade 8 piece at least two years ago. As someone mentioned before, it's more about how they play them rather than strictly the difficulty.

thirdfiddle · 19/11/2025 22:23

Yay soundsofshuna! That's the job, be prepared enough that even if it all goes belly up on the day you still pass.

DS has been "working on g8" for ages, whether he ever actually gets there is a real question. He's not doing music for A level so it's not high on his priority list.

horseymum · 20/11/2025 16:39

Ok, any amazing ideas for music teachers for Christmas presents? Or teens that I haven't spotted before.

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